Comments on: A Possible Wrench in the Extension Hopes for McCutchen http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/11/a-possible-wrench-in-the-extension-hopes-for-mccutchen.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 31 May 2014 02:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: Steve Shoup http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/11/a-possible-wrench-in-the-extension-hopes-for-mccutchen.html#comment-1685 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 21:43:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=4425#comment-1685 While it changes things the Pirates could basically have the provision that McCutchen earns more per year if he earns Super Two status, like you mentioned. I know the Brewers did it with Braun, and he earned just $6 million more over those 4 years of the deal.

If the Pirates are smart and creative it shouldn’t be an issue (lets hope)

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/11/a-possible-wrench-in-the-extension-hopes-for-mccutchen.html#comment-1684 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 21:32:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=4425#comment-1684 Evan Longoria has something similar in his contract. His 2011 price is $2 M, and his 2014 option buyout is $3 M. If he becomes arbitration eligible in 2011 (Super Two, which he is), then his 2011 salary jumps to $2.5 M and his buyout price jumps to $4 M. Basically he gets $1.5 M more guaranteed than he normally would.

That would be the best compromise, as it covers both scenarios on the Super Two debate. However, with the Super Two rule being a big issue next off-season, I doubt anyone will want to include something involving Super Two status in a contract. Why would you, when the rules to the whole Super Two system could change next year?

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/11/a-possible-wrench-in-the-extension-hopes-for-mccutchen.html#comment-1682 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:30:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=4425#comment-1682 “The only way I would negotiate if I were McCutchen is if the Pirates paid me more than the league minimum in 2012, as a compromise considering the chance of Super Two status that year (this could be achieved through an escalator that adds $2 M to the contract that year if McCutchen were otherwise eligible for arbitration).”

Is this a realistic scenario? I would think if I am the Pirates I would give it a shot and absorb the risk you are taking by locking him up in return for making sure we keep him as along as possible.

I do hope that baseball changes the Super Two rule since its a crock that franchises have to keep players down for this reason. It gets sillier each year that it happens because everyone knows that this is the reason top prospects don’t show up despite being ready.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/11/a-possible-wrench-in-the-extension-hopes-for-mccutchen.html#comment-1681 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:59:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=4425#comment-1681 This doesn’t mean the Pirates won’t be able to extend Cutch. Teams usually don’t give players extensions until they reach their arbitration years. The extensions that come prior to the arbitration years are rare, but they don’t seem rare because of the attention they receive.

Basically this means the Pirates probably won’t extend Cutch this off-season. Cutch has a lot to gain by waiting one more year. He could gain a lot by officially being a Super Two player, and he only has to risk an injury or decline for one more season.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/11/a-possible-wrench-in-the-extension-hopes-for-mccutchen.html#comment-1680 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:46:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=4425#comment-1680 IMO, the Pirates and McCutchen would be better off signing a long term contract now, buying out his options, waiting still carries risks on McCutchen’s part also. He could get hurt seriously and get nothing.
He could under perform and get moved and as you said, he is not guaranteed super two.
If the Pirates can keep him here till he is almost 30, that should be enough time to draft and develop an above average center fielder to take his place

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/11/a-possible-wrench-in-the-extension-hopes-for-mccutchen.html#comment-1679 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:21:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=4425#comment-1679 I guess that means we lose McCutch before 2015 then. I guess this why teams try to lock up their players earlier and earlier.

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