Comments on: Matt Diaz Signing Official and Contract Details http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 07 Sep 2014 14:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html#comment-17926 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:12:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=5116#comment-17926 You’re comparing major league numbers to Triple-A numbers. There’s a big difference.

Also, I think Marte will eventually be a very good major leaguer, and I could see him being a star. But you don’t get the same results regardless of when he is called up. So the idea of “let’s make it earlier” doesn’t work.

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By: IC Bob http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html#comment-17925 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:26:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=5116#comment-17925 Marte goes 3 for 5 tonight so his slump turns into Presley’s and Tabata’s season average. The difference is better defense, more speed and more power. We can all selectively look at Marte and make our decisions based on that but I like to go by what the players who play with him say. To a man everyone interviewed on Indy says he will be a star when he hits the big leagues. Lets make it sooner then later.

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By: BarryJT http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html#comment-17911 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:54:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=5116#comment-17911 I think he might be being pitched around and he’s driving the few pitches he’s getting that are hittable (I haven’t seen any of his ABs, so this is conjecture). If this is the case, you have to decide if there’s any point for him to still be in AAA or if it’s a good opportunity to learn patience.

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By: Andrew Scott http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html#comment-17910 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:40:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=5116#comment-17910 I agree there’s no need to rush Marte. How many more wins is he actually going to be worth if we called him up right now? I think he needs to continue to work on his approach in the minors. Also, great explanation on the service time.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html#comment-17909 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:29:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=5116#comment-17909 NorCal….I think he’s talking about this guy:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dealco01.shtml

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By: NorCalBuc http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html#comment-17906 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:57:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=5116#comment-17906 What’s that, again, Kevin? Who is Cot, and with whom does he have a contract? How about, SPECIFICALLY, the Marte example?

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By: Kevin_Creagh http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html#comment-17905 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:42:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=5116#comment-17905 The short answer is that calling him up now won’t affect his service time.

Service time (“the clock”) starts whenever a player is on the 25-man major league roster. If you look on Cot’s Contracts at all, you will see the odd nomenclature like 2.145, for example. A year in the majors is 180 days (+/-). A year of service is considered to be 172 days. So if the example above, the hypothetical player has 2 years, 145 days of service. He needs 35 more for a 3rd year.

The Super 2 determination, in past years at least, was around 130 days of service. So in the past, if a player was 2.135, he was probably going to get 4 cracks at arbitration. Now the new CBA has different regulations and it’s a little up in the air right now.

A player is not a free agent until he has completed 6 years of service to his team. So if a player started 2012 with 5.150, that team gets a “bonus” year out of him this year, as he has already given them 5 full years and nearly a 6th (just 30 days short), but he fell short and is not a free agent.

That’s why manipulating when a player gets called up is done sometimes. But it doesn’t apply to Marte here. There’s no real good reason that I can see why he wouldn’t be an upgrade.

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By: L G http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/12/matt-diaz-signing-official.html#comment-17902 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 06:52:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=5116#comment-17902 I’m just confused how calling up Marte will effect his service time, and how long we keep him eventually and all that.

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