Comments on: Trade Values: Paul Maholm http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: F Lang http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html#comment-7144 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:20:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11187#comment-7144 I actually think that Maholm is pretty consistent. His stuff and control and approach doesn’t really vary much from season to season. Even last year, a lot of his struggles were because the Bucs defense was horrible. He has kept a level head despite being on the one of the worst teams in baseball his entire career. This year is no different because he has had the worst support in the league. He’s a 12-13 win/4.00 era or so guy on a good team. Maholm is a class act and solid pitcher so unless you get a great offer why not just keep him? That goes for all of our guys. Correia would be a great guy to deal. I like him and he has surprised me but his value is probably as good as it’s gonna get right now.

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By: F Lang http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html#comment-7145 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:20:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11187#comment-7145 I actually think that Maholm is pretty consistent. His stuff and control and approach doesn’t really vary much from season to season. Even last year, a lot of his struggles were because the Bucs defense was horrible. He has kept a level head despite being on the one of the worst teams in baseball his entire career. This year is no different because he has had the worst support in the league. He’s a 12-13 win/4.00 era or so guy on a good team. Maholm is a class act and solid pitcher so unless you get a great offer why not just keep him? That goes for all of our guys. Correia would be a great guy to deal. I like him and he has surprised me but his value is probably as good as it’s gonna get right now.

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By: F Lang http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html#comment-7146 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:20:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11187#comment-7146 I actually think that Maholm is pretty consistent. His stuff and control and approach doesn’t really vary much from season to season. Even last year, a lot of his struggles were because the Bucs defense was horrible. He has kept a level head despite being on the one of the worst teams in baseball his entire career. This year is no different because he has had the worst support in the league. He’s a 12-13 win/4.00 era or so guy on a good team. Maholm is a class act and solid pitcher so unless you get a great offer why not just keep him? That goes for all of our guys. Correia would be a great guy to deal. I like him and he has surprised me but his value is probably as good as it’s gonna get right now.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html#comment-7041 Thu, 26 May 2011 16:35:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11187#comment-7041 Any chance you could look at our two catchers trade values?

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By: Steve Zielinski http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html#comment-7040 Thu, 26 May 2011 16:23:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11187#comment-7040 The “neutral look” or “position” on a player’s value should set the baseline from which to evaluate the player’s market. A team like the Giants may now feel a bit desperate given the poor play of Huff, Tejada and Posey’s recent injury. There are times when one team can provide another team with a one-stop shopping experience. That’s possible only because the offense and defense poor Giants team may now feel desperate.

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By: Steve Zielinski http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html#comment-7039 Thu, 26 May 2011 16:19:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11187#comment-7039 I disagreed with David T’s position. I’d trade Maholm as soon as a good deal emerged. I’d not bring up Lincoln beforehand. I’d not want to loose Asciano in order to keep Karstens and Lincoln on the roster. The Pirates may well trade Hanrahan, Veras and Meek if the right players were available. I do not see any reason to toss away pitchers or players just to get Lincoln a few more starts.

Much depends on the Pirates getting a decent offer this summer for Maholm. If they don’t, then their strategy must change to manage that fact.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html#comment-7032 Thu, 26 May 2011 15:21:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11187#comment-7032 There are a lot of variables to consider.  In this case we’re using FanGraphs to rank Maholm, and we’re using Baseball America to rank the prospects.  Other teams could have different ratings for each player. Plus, there’s the supply and demand factor, as you indicated.  If Maholm is the only pitcher on the market, his value goes up.  If the market is flooded with pitchers, his value goes down.

This is more of a neutral look, focusing on the individual, and his value according to FanGraphs and Baseball America rankings.

It’s possible to get more for a guy, but I’d shy away from defaulting to that thinking.  If you mention the possibility that a player could get more in value, you also have to consider the possibility that teams would offer less.  That’s why I prefer the “neutral” look, since it helps to determine whether the team got a fair deal, got more, or got less than they should have.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/05/trade-values-paul-maholm.html#comment-7031 Thu, 26 May 2011 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11187#comment-7031 I understand this whole trade value sequence, its just we fail to forget teams overpay and some teams get desperate. Dotel for McDonald and Lambo? Never ever would i thought we would receive either player for a 37 year old reliever at the time that would only be there for a half of season at best. I was hoping to get one of these players for Maholm (to LAD Rumor last year), but Neal pulled off a good deal. I’m just saying you never know. And sometime we over value our owns players and other times we undervalue our own players. You just don’t know the GM’s values his own players compared to your own.

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