Comments on: Pirates winning games, not necessarily making progress http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/pirates-winning-games-not-necessarily-making-progress.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/pirates-winning-games-not-necessarily-making-progress.html#comment-7567 Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:45:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=12473#comment-7567 THIS F/O has been in place for three years (+/-).

We are at .500 at the latest stage of a season since 1999 (when America had a budget surplus under Clinton!).  Pitching wins games, and this season’s entire staff ranks as one of the best in the NL.

Waiting in the wings are all of the pitching prospects and Presley and Starling Marte.  This all amounts to a remarkable turn of fortunes under any circumstances, let alone considering the brokenness of this franchise in 2008.

I would call it nothing short of astonishing.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/pirates-winning-games-not-necessarily-making-progress.html#comment-7561 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:37:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=12473#comment-7561 Eventually they have to stop drafting nothing but CF’s and hope that they will aquire some power when they “fill out” and get serious about drafting guys who can really do some damage with a bat. I’m tired of guys like Rojas and the like. They have had 4 drafts and they drafted 1 true power hitter out of 200 draft picks. 

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By: Hammer http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/pirates-winning-games-not-necessarily-making-progress.html#comment-7560 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:01:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=12473#comment-7560 If we have players under control till “after” the 2013 season I find it difficult to dump and trade.  Still trying to understand the Bay trade when we still had one more year of control.

I do not see Tallion and Cole being rushed to the 2013 season.  I see more of a June 2014 call up at the earliest to be very realistic about it.

Maholm is the only trade piece this year….period.  If we continue to trade the Hanrahan’s of our roster what does it say to FA’s in 2012 and beyond.  I believe Hurdle made a comment that some players (FA) refuse to even think about negotiating with Pittsburgh due to the atmosphere that surrounds this franchise.  If Hanrahan is traded it better be a steal of a right handed power hitting corner IF or OF and possibly both.  Seriously though no team would ever give up two hitting prospects for a closer.

Folks this is going to take a little more time unless the pocket book is opened and that simply is not going to happen.  The timing of McCutchen leaving for FA (unless we buy out a year or two of arbitration) will coincide with the arrival of the “Pitchers”.  Then what, deju vu all over again in not having any position players to score any runs.

Huntington knows that he has to be extra shrewd in trading a few of our pitching prospects for position prospects.  I just do not see that happening this year.  Next year, Huntington (yes he will be back) will be very, very interesting on how he is able to balance out our future with pitching and fielding prospects.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/pirates-winning-games-not-necessarily-making-progress.html#comment-7556 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:37:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=12473#comment-7556 I think you will find that many teams have had players regress from last year to this one. Whether its the drug testing, no amphetimines, or just that pitching has gotten better, runs are way down, especially in the National League. This team is gaining incredible confidence with so many young players.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/pirates-winning-games-not-necessarily-making-progress.html#comment-7553 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:02:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=12473#comment-7553 Overall, I like this analysis, but the answers are a little muddled.  As you said, bullpens are too volatile so I’m never really worried about a building block there.

With Morton and McDonald, you have at least 2/5 of your rotation with the hope that in 2013 Cole and Taillon may be here at some point.

I think Walker has regressed with his offensive numbers, but he is probably a .275/.340/.450 guy in his prime anyway.  His defense at 2B is MUCH better this year.

Tabata has regressed with his BA, but he’s still a nice complementary piece overall.

Alvarez — yeah….lost season.

Teams are not built solely thru the draft…trades and FA will augment any team.  There will (hopefully) always be a Correia-type that helps the Pirates out for a year or 2.

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