Comments on: The Pirates Needed to Make a Bigger Statement in May http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Fri, 25 Jul 2014 21:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: Bob http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7191 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:12:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7191 Why deal Hanrahan??? I understand Maholm but def don’t agree with any trade involving Hanrahan.  

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7180 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 04:55:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7180 I guess I misremembered. lol

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7179 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 03:45:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7179 Here is what I said on each player:

Hanrahan: “a top 50 pitching prospect, or a 51-100 hitting prospect and maybe another player”

Maholm: “a top 51-100 pitching prospect, or a top 76-100 hitting prospect”

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7178 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:59:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7178 If I remember correctly, we couldn’t expect a top 50 prospect for one guy and shouldn’t expect a top 100 prospect for the other. To me that means their value isn’t that high.

Knowing how Neal likes to trade, he will probably take a quantity approach to hope that something pans out. This results in a good chance that we get back similiar guys to the ones we got over the last couple of years which I think we have plenty of(i.e alot of dead weight).

As you have pointed out before, there is going to be a large roster crunch at the end of the season so if we trade our starters away, you better figure out how to lump in some of the bodies that you are going to lose anyways because you can’t protect them all.

Now if we get an overwhelming offer, for a stud MLB ready player or two, go right ahead, but we can’t go for quantity. If anything we need to trade quantity for quality, lol.

I know I am fusing a couple of thoughts together here, but they are kind of related. A) we need quality MLB ready players B) we need to trade some quantity away if that is what it takes to get quality.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7177 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:04:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7177 Nevermind 7 ER in 5.2 IP hurts the value, especially when you had a 7 Run lead

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7176 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:34:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7176 Are the catching options really that thin though? They have Russell Martin having a good year, ya Posada is a straight DH and Cervelli is Cervelli, but there #2 Prospect is Catcher Gary Sanchez, whos projected to have just as good as bat as Montero and even a better glove, just young and Austine Romine is also a very good Catching prospect for them also…Thats why i was thinking they could afford to trade Montero. But your right they probably would use Montero to get that TOP Big named player.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7175 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:13:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7175 “especially when you have established that their value isn’t all that high”

I never said their value wasn’t high.  I pointed out that both could fetch top prospects, as long as there are teams willing to part with top prospects for them.

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By: sam http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7174 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:08:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7174 I don’t think the pirates should be confused as a contender.  Therefore is they can get a big time prospect like Montero that can play first base with The Hammer and Maholm DO IT

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7172 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:05:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7172 Sorry, can’t agree with you here on your assessment. I’d rather stick it out with Maholm and Hanrahan than flip them for more prospects especially when you have established that their value isn’t all that high.

Yeah, we can lose without them, but hanging around .500 is more exciting than watching another 90 loss plus season. It will take a serious Dotel deal overpay to change my mind on this.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/06/the-pirates-needed-to-make-a-bigger-statement-in-may.html#comment-7166 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:53:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=11452#comment-7166 Two things on Montero:

1. It was reported that the Royals turned down an offer that included Montero and Soria.  It’s impossible to know what else was involved with that offer, so I’m not going to assume it was a 1-for-1 swap.

2. There’s a big difference in value between Montero last year, and Montero this year.  He’s still a top prospect, but the Yankees catching options are very thin.  Not that Montero is great defensively behind the plate (he would probably be a first baseman in the majors), but he can’t be worse overall than the guys they have now.

I just don’t see Maholm and a reliever getting it done.  Maybe Maholm/Hanrahan, but I think it’s more likely that the Yankees use Montero to get a top guy.

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