Comments on: Let’s Not Carve Stetson Allie’s Career in Stone

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:09:00 +0000

Billy Beane wouldn’t like this post

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:08:00 +0000

This organization has made very big strides this past year in development of pitchers due to one reason…Ray Searage. He commands respect and has a great relationship with Benedict, and that will only help spread a consistent message across the minor league teams. Translates into having major league ready pitching consistently at your fingertips when injuries and poor performance happen.

By: Tim Williams

Tim Williams — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:29:00 +0000

Can we really say that after seeing the huge turnaround by Charlie Morton this year? Also, there’s the big difference by Jeff Karstens. As for minor league players, we haven’t seen any results translating to major league success, but at the same time, we haven’t had much time for results in the majors.

They don’t have a strong track record, but they do have some encouraging signs, and Charlie Morton this year is the biggest one.

By: Jimmy Cali

Jimmy Cali — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:25:00 +0000

I think the question is can the Pirates organization develop Allie? They don’t have a track record yet of developing pitchers in the minors with this new regime.

I agree its really early on Allie.

By: Jimmy Cali

Jimmy Cali — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:25:00 +0000

I think the question is can the Pirates organization develop Allie? They don’t have a track record yet of developing pitchers in the minors with this new regime.

I agree its really early on Allie.

By: Nate

Nate — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:14:00 +0000

As fans, you’d like to see every outing being 6 innings with 10 K’s, but as rational human beings, it’s good to take a step back and realize there will be many bumps in the road, peaks and valleys, success and failures. Allie has the potential and it’s both his and the Pirates job to help him realize that.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:40:00 +0000

Not to give away my age (but here we go), but I remember watching Randy Johnson pitch in short-season A ball. He was a wild and ineffective reliever with incredibly high walk rates at the time. However, the talent was obvious and the Expos stuck with him (until trading him away for Mark Langston). Not comparing Allie to Johnson, but it demonstrates the development process.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:59:00 +0000

Good observations. There is a lot more to pitching than the things that are measureable. Desire, work ethic, mentality, aggressiveness, confidence, and attitude all go into the makeup of an athlete, and the makeup is usually what gets a kid to the highest levels of his trade. No one liked Tom Brady coming out of college, but his makeup propelled him to the top.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:55:00 +0000

At the lower levels of the minors, scouting always sets the frame for interpreting stats. If it didn’t, then the Pirates would conclude that drafting Taillon was a mistake. After all, his ERA sits north of 4.00!

By: Tim Williams

Tim Williams — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:57:00 +0000

I use the “Player A/Player B” comparisons because it removes the pre-conceived thoughts about a player.

As for the article above, I’m not sure if it fits your “less on stats and more on actual footage” comment. The post is hardly about stats, and in Allie’s case, it’s almost entirely based on watching him play and talking to team officials about him.