Comments on: Some Perspective on the Impact of an Impact Bat http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/07/some-perspective-on-the-impact-of-an-impact-bat.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/07/some-perspective-on-the-impact-of-an-impact-bat.html#comment-8395 Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:41:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=16996#comment-8395 Well, actually, you can dispute that. The Pirates, through 103 games, have played 27 one-run games; it seems unlikely, at best, that they’d play 30 in their final 59.  The use of advanced metrics isn’t “disingenuous”; it’s using research based on considerable in-game data.  To paraphrase something Bill James wrote nearly 30 years ago, we know things through data and testing that data; things we just “know” are close cousins to things you get on the bottom of your shoe in a barnyard.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/07/some-perspective-on-the-impact-of-an-impact-bat.html#comment-8379 Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:36:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=16996#comment-8379 Agree and disagree.

We have talent, but are EXTREMELY top-heavy.  When you go down the prospect lists, the first (and really only) cornerstone trade piece would be Starling Marte.  The players who are above Marte are too valuable to the franchise, the players below are under-performing or not great prospects.  And another thing to realize is that Marte isn’t much more than an above-average prospect.  22yo in AA with a horrendous K-BB… yeah, shouldn’t be too highly-touted.

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By: Robert A Bishop http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/07/some-perspective-on-the-impact-of-an-impact-bat.html#comment-8378 Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:32:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=16996#comment-8378 Not that I would advocate it, but giving up Allie or whatever would not constitute “blowing up” the farm system.  The additional revenue and win(s) that a Beltran-type player would bring in allow them to bid for another Heredia-type next year, so there’s no need to exaggerate the negative component.

Also, I think its disingenuous to imply that replacing Overbay/Diaz/Jones/Alvarez/Paul/D’Arnaud/other .280 OBA guy with a legit bat would equate to 1 win considering they will be in 30 1-run games between now and the end of the year.  Advanced metrics are great, but no one would dispute that Beltran would result in more than 1 win over Overbay over the next 250 at-bats—especially considering the solid pitching that keeping games competitive.

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By: Corey Barcus http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/07/some-perspective-on-the-impact-of-an-impact-bat.html#comment-8375 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:49:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=16996#comment-8375 What talant, they have very, very little minor league talant. MAYBE 3 or 4 real ML prospects. I think you over esimate the Pirates farm system.

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