Comments on: Update on Josh Bell’s Chances of Signing http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 01 Jun 2014 14:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8743 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:06:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8743 I agree that the talent level at this stage between Allie and Bell has a noticeable disparity.  My comparison was to discuss the leverage each player had. Allie then and Bell now had scholarships to major college programs. The Bucs might be willing to pay more to Bell than Allie because of Bell’s perceived higher ceiling and more polish at this stage. However, I can’t see the Bucs offering anything close to the Dodger’s Lee deal.  A Bucs offer to Bell probably tops out around $4 million. 

You go to college to gain skills to have a career.  How many careers outside of baseball will pay this young man that kind of money over his life.  If he is offered around $3 to $4 million I think he signs because it’s too difficult too pass on that financial security.  Of course, Gerrit Cole had potentially a similar decision  but told the Yankees not to make an offer because he wanted to attend UCLA.  I view Cole’s decision as the exception.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8665 Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:53:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8665 I agree, however I don’t think it is fair to compare Allie to Bell.  Allie was nowhere hear the prospect Bell is in my opinion.  Allie was only considered a pitcher, and one who could bring it but was very raw.  As we can see this year, he can’t control his stuff very well – yet.  Hopefully that changes.

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By: Tim Fort http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8663 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:21:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8663 I think it’s ridiculous to characterize a kid as an idiot for not signing right away as a #2 pick.  Boras is his advisor and as a good agent should, he’s looking out for the kid to get him the best deal possible.  Everything from the draft until August 15th is a negotiation. Boras is throw out smoke to try to get the best deal.  If the Pirates think it’s going to take the world to sign him, and if he thinks they’re desperate, then they’re more likely to sweeten the deal than to low-ball him.  It’s called NEGOTIATING with LEVERAGE!

If he doesn’t sign, then you can blame the kid, Boras, Nutting, etc… but until then, it’s all just bloviating and FUD… Alvarez wasn’t going to sign either…

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8623 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:08:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8623 The Pirates may have better luck this coming draft with his supplemental pick (which would be much higher than the Bucs will get otherwise, as a prob. middle of the pack picker)another high second round?

BEGINNING to watch the “all important lost column” already for the Pirates this year-only  burghdood 7 losses from a #3 overall pick next year!!!!!!!

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8603 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:54:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8603 All these rumors and sources being quoted as to the money Bell wants is being controlled by Boras.  Information is being controlled by Boras.  It is all done to exert pressure on the Buccos to up their offer.  Bell was the 15th best prospect and the Buccos did the right thing in drafting him because Bell was vastly superior to the other available players at that pick. Bell is willing to sign.  He could have pulled out of the draft if he was unwilling to sign.  He could release a public statement right now that  he will attend school.  He hasn’t done those things ’cause he is willing to sign.  His camp doesn’t expect $10 million.  Cole will be  close, but under that #.  As a reference, Zack Lee signed for $6 million last year, but could have been a two sport superstar in colllege.  If Buccos offer anything above $3 million, they have made a serious and fair offer.  That would be a higher # than what Alie signed last year to be lured away from UNC.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8590 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:06:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8590 I don’t think any team, let alone our Pirates, should be taking players w/ our #2 pick w/ the mentality of ‘if we don’t sign him we’ll get compensated next year’.  The Pirates need high level players in the system now.  Better to not have drafted Bell if they didn’t think they could sign him, and have taken someone else who was an upper level talent that would sign.  Round #2 is no place to be gambling on signing guys in my opinion, especially w/ a system like ours that needs to fatten up.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8577 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:01:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8577 Scrappy……….I am with you and PirateMike. Well said.

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By: King of Smoke http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8555 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:18:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8555 Pirates were just playing the system to get an extra talent. He dropped that far because of signability, they get that pick back if they don’t. Just because there is a need this kid is probably 5 years away, with no guarantee. I just don’t see it as a failure. I think they took a chance, if they give a good offer and he turns them down so be it. That’s life. It’s not an either or type of thing. I want our FO to be aggressive like this.

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By: Bradley http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8554 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:40:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8554 If he doesnt do well in school or hurts himself while playing in college he is out millions. Good for pirates but bad for him. You can still go to college if you play ball in the minors if it really is about education with bell.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/08/update-on-josh-bells-chances-of-signing.html#comment-8553 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:56:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=17493#comment-8553 I would agree with piratemike, Bell is said to have a lot of talent from both sides of the plate however he has only faced high school pitchers up to this point.  Our current 3b was supposed to be a can’t miss hitting talent and so far he is missing quite a bit (hope he figures it out).  Bell wasn’t even considered a top 5 pick this year so why would you throw that kind of money at a highschool hitter???  10mil really….I would offer 4-5mil. and if he says no then say good luck in college and move on…

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