Comments on: 2012 Free Agent Options: Catcher http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/2012-free-agent-options-catcher.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: Ian Rothermund http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/2012-free-agent-options-catcher.html#comment-9519 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:26:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=20494#comment-9519 That’s, if, there’s a hard-slotting system.  No one wants to rock the boat in the new CBA negotiations.  I think the idea of a hard slotting system is a much bigger deal to many of the GM’s that people may think.  Without any sort of salary cap conditions on the major league level, it’s unlikely that there will be a cap placed on the draft.  There are 10 or less teams that have the super high payrolls, so everyone else has to live and, to a certain extent, die with the draft.  Even of those teams, especially citing the Red Sox from the “Moneyball” article in Sports Illustrated, utilize signing players via the draft to above slot deals.  Also, by going to a hard slot system, you’re essentially guaranteeing that high school talent would be going to college, and ultimately that affects the Major League clubs.  Basically, there’s no way this is happening without other upheavals in the economic system, so it’s irresponsible to operate under the assumption that something like that is going to happen.  Once December comes along and they sign the new deal, we’ll be able to put it to rest for another 5-6 years before it doesn’t happen then either.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/2012-free-agent-options-catcher.html#comment-9513 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:30:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=20494#comment-9513 Thank you. I accidentally looked at Molina’s age when I typed it.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/2012-free-agent-options-catcher.html#comment-9511 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:39:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=20494#comment-9511 Also bear in mind that it’s highly unlikely we would get another 10-15 talent in this year’s second round, especially if there’s a hard-slotting system: top prospect high-schoolers wouldn’t sign for slot money in round 2.

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By: Douglas Alexander http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/2012-free-agent-options-catcher.html#comment-9510 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:14:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=20494#comment-9510 He’ll actually be 32. I think Shoppach would be a decent signing though. Getting out of the AL East and getting more ABs could do his offense some good too.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/2012-free-agent-options-catcher.html#comment-9506 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:46:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=20494#comment-9506 I’ve made myself a list of all the free agents and their WAR (from Fangraphs) over the last 3 seasons. Sort of a very rough ranking and the top 5 free agents catchers are:

1. Yadier Molina 9.9 WAR
2. Ramon Hernandez 4.3
3. Ryan Doumit 3.0
4. Kelly Shoppach 2.9
5. Rod Barajas 2.8

I know this is far from a perfect list but that is really not my point. My point is what about Shoppach? I know offensively he isn’t a great option but he can be in that 650-670 range. Defensively he just had a very strong season with a 41% CS rate and only 1 passed ball allowed in 625.2 innings. And he will only be 29 next season meaning he shouldn’t be on the decline.

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By: Bob http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/2012-free-agent-options-catcher.html#comment-9502 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:35:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=20494#comment-9502 Ramon Hernandez is only one that would make sense.  

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/2012-free-agent-options-catcher.html#comment-9501 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:15:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=20494#comment-9501 Bottom line………..ain’t much out there. And, given our ‘history’, whoever we bring in will fail badly.

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