Comments on: CBA Updates: Draft Slotting Notes http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/cba-updates-draft-slotting-notes.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/cba-updates-draft-slotting-notes.html#comment-9884 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:45:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21015#comment-9884 Not sure if we’re kinda making the point. The Pirates have no real advantage other than they pick earlier than most big market teams, inflating their yearly draft spending. every team had 2 or more chances to draft Bell. The Red Sox were really high on him but must have thought his commitment was too strong. Im sure they would have been willing to go way over slot to get him.(Like they went and got Ranaudo the year prior. Who I was hoping would fall to bucs in the 2nd).
Regardless if they are more predisposed to spend that on the major league team, they are more than capable of grabbing most overslot players the Pirates have drafted. Just saying in theory the Bucs advantage is overstated.
Hard slotting stops teams from drafting Bryan Bullington No. 1 overall. The top talent willl go to the worst team and work its way down. Maybe the Pirates can take the draft money saved and dump it into scouting and advanced analysis.
As much as the Pirates have spent in the past I’m still not sure that they have done better than some teams like Tampa, Boston, Toronto, that have had 4 or more picks in the 1st and supplemental rd.
I think hard slotting makes for a more “true draft” only if the compensation system is fixed. Alll the better if it becomes a worldwide draft and picks can be traded. Then  Neal can really go out and show what he can do. Say trade a doumit for a 2nd rd pick that becomes a Matt Purke type or someone of the like. 

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/cba-updates-draft-slotting-notes.html#comment-9879 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:22:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21015#comment-9879 Large market teams can spend on over-slot guys. However, that doesn’t really affect the Pirates in the first round. For example, this year the Pirates had their choice of players. They could have taken Cole no matter what the large market teams were spending. They also would have had exclusive negotiating rights with him no matter what the large market teams spent.

Where this does affect the Pirates is in situations like Bell. If large market teams start spending, we’re less likely to see a Josh Bell fall to the Pirates in round two. That said, nothing was stopping the Yankees or Red Sox from drafting him and throwing $5 M at him this year. So I’m not sure how much that type of situation would change. I think most large market teams are thinking short term. They’d rather spend $5 M on a free agent, rather than a high school outfielder.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/10/cba-updates-draft-slotting-notes.html#comment-9877 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:56:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21015#comment-9877 @Tim:disqus  let me preface by saying I lack the intelligence, where with all, energy, know how, etc to really know all the factors but I think maybe we’re being a little shortsighhted on this matter. 1st every large market team has the opputunity(and more ability) to spend large amounts on overslot guys, its just a question of whether they choose to. Which gives the Pirates a very lmited advantage if any. 2nd draft slotting will comletely change the draft itself, bringing cost certainty, limiting holdouts, getting players in minors much sooner. The only thing i see it doing for sure is take negotiating power away from HS prospects. These players may still fall but you should have a much better idea if they are signing.

The real problem is the compensation system there is no reason why playoff teams like Boston and Tampa should have 8-11 picks before the Pirates pick twice. If that was fixed along with the hard sloting that could bring the Bucs cost certainty along with higher picks.

I would think the first few rounds would become 90% college players with high upside prep guys going in later rounds. You may see an increased number of guys going to college but that doesnt hurt any teams long term.

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