Comments on: Pirates Interested in Ramon Santiago http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Jimmy http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10228 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:07:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10228 This franchise is such a joke.    

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10225 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:25:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10225 Just to add nothing you have said about NH is spam (you points about him are all valid). What you have said about me is spam. You contributed me with saying Santiago and Barajas are saviors when I clearly said no such thing. That is spam.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10224 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:34:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10224 So now we are moving the goal posts. First every free agent was an abject disaster. Now its the non pitchers and guys who were acquired through a certain type of free agency. If you narrow the window small enough of course no one is going to find anybody.

Again where did I say it didn’t matter who the Pirates had batting 7th and 8th? I said show me a team that gains salvation (is built around) their 7th and 8th hitters. You have failed to do so.

Cedeno is better than Santiago, really? Over the last 3 seasons Santiago owns a better WAR, OBP, SLG, wOBA, wRC+ and UZR/150.

As far as catcher I don’t think you or anyone would say Doumit is the better defender of the two or the more durable of the two. Yes Doumit is the better player offensively but how does that help when he isn’t on the field. Before you bring Barajas’s durability problems up he has caught an average of over 200 more innings per season than Doumit (over the last 3 years).

Again I am not saying these moves are putting the Pirates in the playoffs but that doesn’t mean they are bad moves.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10222 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:19:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10222 I didn’t realize it didn’t matter who the Pirates had batting 7th and 8th.  Or that it didn’t matter they had better and younger options in Doumit and Cedeno.

I should have been more clear, I meant positional player free agents.  And no, Jones does not count as he was a minor league free agent.  So tell me how well Luis Rivas, Chris Gomez, Ramon Vazquez, Eric Hinske, Bobby Crosby, Ryan Church, Matt Diaz and Lyle Overbay worked out for the Pirates.

Wait, because I’m skeptical of a philosophy that NH has proven to not be effective, I’m spamming the board?  You’re right, I should applaud these wonderful moves as they will be pivotal for another 100 loss Pirate team. Better?

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10221 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:14:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10221 I called them 7th and 8th hitters. Give me a team that finds salvation in those spots.

You mean every free agent acquisition like Jones, Veras, Resop and Dotel. Right there are four solid role players he has brought in through free agency. That is what I am expecting Barajas to be and that is what I would expect Santiago to be.

No one is saying these two are being brought in to save the franchise. Show me where I or anyone else here said that or just quit spamming this site. 

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10220 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:54:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10220 Yup, 37 year old catchers and 32 year old career backup middle infielders are clearly the salvation for a team heading into it’s 5th year of a rebuild.

Look no further than every other free agent acquistion by Huntington to see how this is going to turn out.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10218 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:25:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10218 I know I am probably in the minority but I would like this move. He appears to be an upgrade over Cedeno and not much worse than Barmes, who would be my top choice.

Having him and Barajas manning the 7th and 8th spots in the lineup would by no means be great but I think it would be serviceable.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10217 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:06:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10217 Santiago + Barajas = Big Splash DBN’s was talking about

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By: Greg Moore http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10215 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:50:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10215 No. 3 on Ramon Santiago’s similarity scores list on Baseball Reference?

Ronny Cedeno.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/santira01.shtml

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By: john.alcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/pirates-interested-in-ramon-santiago.html#comment-10214 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:21:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21447#comment-10214 Please no. Could they really find a player worse than Ronny at SS, apparently yes. You might as well just let Chase, Jordy, and Ciriaco play.

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