Comments on: The Relief Pitching Market Is Heating Back Up http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10223 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:21:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10223 Tim and Bonds…I couldn’t agree with you more.I was actually hoping they would trade Hanny in July when he was really worth something,before he reverted to the ” Wash.Nat’s Hanrahan “,which he was working on the last month or so of the season.The Rangers were the team I would have tried to deal with,as they were desperate,as they indeed showed when the traded Erlin and another good prospect for Adams.A closer doesn’t do much good when he is sitting in the BP night after night watching his team getting pounded.JohnW,are youreally paying attention that you have to use that boring statement all the time ?

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By: JohnW http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10198 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:19:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10198 Just what we need, another SALARY DUMP

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10169 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 03:23:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10169 A bad month of Hanarahan makes him Wash Nats Hanarahan so not only did he stink he now has low trade value. He’s no Mariano Riviera, started showing some chinks late in the season. Better off dealing now and getting a JJ Putz type( who was pretty bad recently and had a good season) to close games if Meek or someone else isnt ready.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10167 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:31:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10167 i agree in all accounts with tim. we have very few trading blocks that will bring a good return, other than our young  players in minors. as tim stated, the only way we can afford to get players we need long term is to trade or draft. even though some dwell on our losing, i feel there is a big difference in our future than there was five years ago. granted a lot is based on potential but that was not even close to the potential in the past losing. especially have high end prospects , rated that way by others. key is the evaluation of those we bring in on trades or medium priced free agents.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10166 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:26:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10166 What are your solutions? All of my views are based on what is actually happening on the market, and not with the ideal team in mind. The ideal team is nice, but my approach is to look at the realistic team.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10165 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:24:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10165 I’m not sure I follow your statement on filling a roster out. If you’re referring to my approach with free agency, I don’t think the Pirates can get impact players through that method. I think they can get impact players through the drafts, and possibly through trades. The reason I’d deal Hanrahan is that it gives the Pirates a chance to land an impact player. Sure, people consider Hanrahan an impact player. I just disagree with that, because I don’t think relievers make a big impact, and I think they’re easy to replace.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10164 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:22:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10164 This is really a chicken and the egg debate. Yes, it’s good to protect the leads that you have so that you win as many games as possible. However, where are those leads coming from? What good is protecting a lead if you’re not getting enough leads to contend?

I would rather go in to the season with a question mark at closer and extra prospects from a Hanrahan trade. This doesn’t rule out a dominant closer. It just takes you from a sure thing to an unknown.

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By: Jeremy http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10162 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:35:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10162 The question for you then is how are you going to fill those holes with that level of talent.  Either you sign it via free agency, which they can’t do, or you trade for it.  To trade for a prospect that could be an impact player, you need to trade impact players.  Once again you have CP, CF and 2B which are quality MLBers that you can expect to get a good level of production from.  Every other position is a huge variable on what you will get.  You can’t add pieces to contend in 2012 when there are that many holes.

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By: Jeremy http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10161 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:31:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10161 That’s not the point being made though.  No one’s saying a closer isn’t important for a winning team.  The point is last season’s win total was probably a fluke and there is no reason to have a closer on a team with only CF and 2B as non question marks.  The Pirates having Hanrahan is like putting $10,000 rims on a 1992 Honda Civic.

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/the-relief-pitching-market-is-heating-back-up.html#comment-10160 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:52:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21353#comment-10160 Brian, I have the same argument, why fill the holes with the same level of talent? why not get better players for the positions that are available? There is no way that I punt on 2012.

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