Comments on: Trade Values: Yonder Alonso http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10878 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:22:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10878 I would not put a nickle on Meek as a closer or an 8th inning set-up guy, he lost the fastball that made him a good pitcher, worst part is he does not have the disposition that a closer needs, he usually chokes when he gets someone on.
Shorten the game, take the 8th and 9th inning away from the opponent, keep Hanrahan and get a good set-up guy. Mix and matching is not my idea of a closer or set-up guy.

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By: Alex Rutkowski http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10877 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:19:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10877 How about a three way deal with the Padres for Chase Headley? Maybe using Toronto or Cincinnati as the third team in the deal? Hanrahan to Toronto for Prospects, maybe a drabek or D’arnaud to the Padres, and Headley to the pirates. Fit Alvarez at First with Jones as his insurance policy. 

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By: Dan Loften http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10876 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:11:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10876 I don’t believe Meek could cut it as a closer in my opinion.  I love healthy Meek in the 8th.  I really do.  I just cannot see him closing out games with enough consistency.  Maybe for a spot year or so but not for more than a season. 

I don’t see us getting Edwin Jackson as much as I wish we would.  He probably won’t sign with a big team like the Yankees, but, I see him getting a lot of money.  Too much for what he is.  Even though he would be our #1 sadly.

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By: Dan Loften http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10875 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:08:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10875 Not to put down your analasis of Alonso’s prime, but, generally speaking most prospects don’t reach their prime in the majors until a few years after.  While he might enjoy early success like Braun, Lonoria, and others (likely not to their extent as far as numbers go) but I think his prime would start somewhere around 2014 and go through 2020, maybe further since he would be at first base and suffer less wear and tear.

I completely agree that the Pirates should do something to make this trade.  I think a package like Hanrahan, McDonald, and another non top prospect like Gorkys Hernandez or Locke could do it maybe.  I would love to see this guy play for us.  He probably wouldn’t hit the 30 home run mark, however, 20+ would be a blessing for anyone at any position on the Pirates roster right now.

This would sure up a long term need at 1B.  While I don’t think it would happen I would love for it to work out somehow.

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By: Matt Beam http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10872 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:44:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10872 I realize some folks will think I’m crazy given his injury plagued season last year, but I really think a healthy Evan Meek can be a very good closer in this league. Plus, closer is probably the most overrated position in baseball. You can’t miss on this trade – but I would trade Joel in a heartbeat for a very good, young prospect such as Alonso. Right now, OF and 2B are the only places I feel good about with this team.

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By: ed_cummings http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10873 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:44:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10873 The kicker to this piece is that Alonso makes $1 Million this year, Lee would make around $10M.  Pirates could add another reliever and/or make a run at a starter like Edwin Jackson with that money.  Would you rather have Alonso, Meek & Jackson or Lee and Hanrahan? 

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By: Anonymous http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10868 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:30:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10868 Alonso would be nice to get, but I don’t think he is at the top of the Pirates priority list, I would not be afraid to bet they still hope to get Lee and if they don’t get Lee, I would put my money on them going for Pena, if those two don’t work out, who knows who is No. 3 on their check down list!

It would be hard to get Hanrahan away from me without another closer in the works, someone like Heath Bell. I must admit, Alonso for Hanrahan would be tempting.

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By: ed_cummings http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10867 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:58:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10867 Alonso is younger and profiles to hit for better average and better power than Hague.  He should hit around 290 with 20+ HRs in his prime which should start in 2012 and last through 2018.  That would make him at least the 2nd best offensive player on the team.
Good young players that hit left handed (important at PNC) and play above average defense at a position of need aren’t available every day.  Trades like this are the best chance to improve the major league roster.  The Pirates should doing whatever it takes: Hanrahan, cash, pitching prospects (ZVR or Allie), taking back Bronson Arroyo in order to make this deal happen.  The Pirates are building for the future and when the primary alternative is a player (Lee) whose three year plan includes the word “retirement” this should be a no brainer.

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By: Jack Mcelligott http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11/trade-values-yonder-alonso.html#comment-10866 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:41:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=21869#comment-10866 Good analysis as usual. I dont see the Pirates and Reds doing anything here. I would give Hague a shot before taking this guy and giving up Hanrahan.  If Alonso is not going to be an impact player then the Hague options seems much more plausible.

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