Comments on: Should the Pirates Extend Neil Walker? http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Tue, 27 May 2014 10:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: mikez09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html#comment-13076 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 22:37:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=26562#comment-13076 BTW, I played 2nd base in college a long time ago, so no offense to the 2nd baseman of the world was meant by my “dime a dozen” comment. I just meant it is an easier position to fill then most….

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By: mikez09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html#comment-13075 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 22:35:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=26562#comment-13075 I was having this argument at my restaraunt yesterday and everyone thought i was crazy for suggesting the Pirates not extend Walker. I thought i was gonna be lynched for suggesting that 2nd baseman are a dime a dozen and Walker isn’t a star, just a solid average player. I totaly agree with everything you said in here Tim! That said, I really like Walker and think hes a great teammate and a leader but baseball is a business and we have several guys in the minors that by 2017 one of them should be able to step up!!!

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By: Ian Rothermund http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html#comment-13070 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 20:04:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=26562#comment-13070  I would say that Walker is definitely easier to replace than McCutchen.  There are some appealing prospects, yes, but this is exactly the kind of guy that the Pirates needed to sign long term.  Not only have they locked down a guy long-term that is a very talented young player, they’ve quieted detractors who rely on the argument that the Pirates are incapable of retaining quality players, while simultaneously being able to initiate a message to the rest of the league as well as future free agents that they aren’t a joke anymore….or at least approaching not being a joke.

Yes, according to the Tampa model, this may not be the right move.  However, I would argue that signing McCutchen long-term does just as much off the field for the Pirates as it does on.  Maybe more.

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By: Thom http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html#comment-13065 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:07:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=26562#comment-13065 I completely agree with this analysis.  It’s also very unlikely that giving him a contract would do anything in the short term, since the archaic abitration system focuses on homeruns, RBI, and batting avg. For fielding, they’re often swayed by highlights, and he’s not that type of guy.

We should save our money and see if he develops into something better, but all signs point to him being a solid but unspectacular 2B.

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By: piratemike http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html#comment-13062 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 16:41:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=26562#comment-13062 There are people out there who still think the Pirates should have re-signed Bay , Nady ,LaRoche ,Sanchez and Wilson and then added a bunch of free agent pitchers. I trust the FO more than some fan out there to make business decisions.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html#comment-13060 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 16:02:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=26562#comment-13060 I have to disagree, I think there are players in there pipeline that can replace McCutchen or Walker, Hague never gets mentioned for anything, he can also play 3rd base, he does not have to be the second coming of Brooks Robinson to be affective. As a matter of fact if the phone rang tomorrow and someone offered a deal too good to pass up, I would trade McCutchen or Walker or anyone else the Pirates have, the idea should always be to make the team better, not stand pat.
Marte, Bell, Grossman, Tabata, Presley, not a bad group to pick from, any three still makes a pretty good outfield.The quest for the power hitter or the perfect combo player at times leads us away from reality, the Pirates don’t have any super stars this year, but what they do have is a lot of good players and a lot of depth, cut down time should be interesting this year.

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By: Ian Rothermund http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html#comment-13058 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:32:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=26562#comment-13058 I think that this season will be huge in ultimately proving or disproving those sentiments towards Walker.  If he can show even better defensive capabilities and consistently show up at the plate, then maybe the tone of this article changes a bit. 

I also think that the player attachment issues that Pirate-nation has dealt with in the last decade or so needs to be addressed.  I really like Walker, and I hope he’s the real deal.  However, beyond this being a business, it’s a game, and the point of playing a game is to win.  This isn’t a 6-year old soccer league, it’s professional sports.  Maybe it’s time for Pirate’s fans to get attached to notching some W’s. 

Then again, it’s quite possible that the lack of winning over this long stretch of time has resulted in the fans needing to hold on to something, and the play definitely hasn’t been capable of supporting that need.  If we start getting into that consistent 80-90 win mark over a few seasons, people will care considerably less about individual players and considerably more about sustaining that.

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By: solonslo http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/03/should-the-pirates-extend-neil-walker.html#comment-13054 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:35:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=26562#comment-13054 Your analysis is spot on, and that’s too bad, because he is the Pittsburgh Kid. Furthermore, the emotional connection of his Dad with Clemente’s heroic flight/death just makes you want to root for this kid. His work with Maz, and Maz playing all those years with Clemente. I know it’s a business, sabermetrics rule, but damn it, the team and fans need some feel warm and fuzzy stuff too! Neal and Neil get with it and make it a reasonable deal. Walker’s utility {2B-3B-CA} makes him valuable going forward, even off the bench.

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