Comments on: Pirates Have a Lot of Over-Slot Options and Not a Lot to Spend http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 20 Apr 2014 22:09:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: Mike Kandrack http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16067 Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:28:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16067 I think all drafted players should read about Matt Harrington before they decide to start thinking about turning down offers and trying their luck in the next draft. Even though Tommy Tanzer was his “advisor” the first year, Boras was his “advisor” every year after that. The kid was offered 4 mil in 2000 and guarenteed to be in the majors by 2002 by the Rockies to working at Costco’s now.

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By: HamburgBucco http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16065 Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:03:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16065 So the Astros signed their first round pick Correa for 4.8 million. We obviously don’t know at this point and maybe we will never know what was the offer on the table for Appel.
We know that Appel was keen to play for his hometown club, on the other hand the Astros were obviously not convinced they could sign Appel for 4.8 million.
Maybe there was an offer but Appel/Boras declined outright which caused Appel to fall to the number 8 pick.
Do you think that Boras does not understand the new draft rules ?
Was he really thinking that any team picking early would sign him and give him over slot money anyway ? Did he think teams would be so keen on Appel that they would blow almost their entire bonus pool on just one guy missing out on 6,7 or 8 other good prospects ? Did he think he could get 7 or 8 million from any team, even under the new rules ? How deluded can you be ? I don’t know Appel personally.
But from his current stance, can any MLB team view him as anything other than a spoilt, greedy and arrogant kid with a serious attitude ?

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By: John David Stanec http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16053 Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:24:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16053 Also, don’t forget that Appel had been hammered in his most recent big stage start during the College Super regionals. All the scouts worth their salt who had to have continued to follow him in case of his not signing till next year had to have knocked him down a few spots in the 2013 pecking order even further! A bad week for Mr. Appel indeed; firstly for taking Boras’ advice & leaving at least 3 mill on the table by scaring away Texas at no.1(the offer was reputedly already made), secondly for giving the Pirates the brushoff, ostensibly to focus on his big Super Regional pitching outing; then stinking out the joint. HAHAHA! I say, let the Pirates offer a couple hundred k overslot; take it or leave it-they may do better next year anyways!
Burghdood

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By: John Lease http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16047 Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:18:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16047 A few hundred K over slot, fine. He’s not worth breaking the bank for, he’s no Strasburg or Harper.

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By: Ian Rothermund http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16044 Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:58:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16044 I second that. ESPN is in the business of making news. Just like any other 24-hour news outlet, they don’t make money and don’t have viewers because of stories like, “everything’s meh today.”

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By: st1300b http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16043 Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:37:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16043 There is a huge difference between projected to be, and what you are. I projected myself to have a 32″ waistline, but the actuality is that it’s 42″.
I like the kid, and I’d be open to negotiating in good faith – that could mean a little more or a little less – but to blow apart the allocated budget for any kid in any round should be a rare occurance for rare talent… nobody was saying this kid was Strasburgh, in fact more people thought the kid that went to Washington, Giolito or something was actually the highest upside pitcher in the draft – so not sure about pushing any limits here.

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By: HamburgBucco http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16042 Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:55:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16042 I’m prepared to say it till I get blue in the mouth: Appel is not the centre of the universe.
One day he may develop into a good MLB pitcher, maybe even a great one.
But that’s not a given at this point. The new draft rules are there for a reason.
It’s not our fault that Appel fell to number 8, it’s down to Appel, his choice of Boras as adviser and their pie in the sky salary demands. No team, ours included, will blow their entire bonus pool on one player.
With his behaviour after the draft including cancelling the press call with the Pirates and his ridiculous statement he has shown no respect for the Pirates and insofar doesn’t deserve any special treatment. Offer him slot money, 2.9 million, take it or leave it!
Just to spice it up, I wouldn’t even give him and Boras a deadline of one week to take the offer, after expiry of same deadline offer should be withdrawn.
As a Stanford player he should be smart enough to make a choice, if he wants to kickstart his career now or haggle over some money and risk losing much more than hard currency in the process. I doubt teams would exactly fight to sign him up in next year’s draft after the ego and attitude shown by him so far.
I hope the Pirates try to sign some picks under slot and give this money to Walker Buehler or some of the other late draft picks with college commitments.
Not a cent over slot for Appel though!
We don’t even know at this stage if he will ever pitch a strike in the majors!
Yet he wants 6 or 7 million in advance just to sign for the Pirates!
Ridiculous!

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16041 Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:34:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16041 I’m suspecting that some of these national pundits don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. And, if you attach the letters ESPN to them, makes it even LESS likely.

The ONLY ESPN guy I like is K Law.

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By: Robert S. Myers http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/pirates-have-a-lot-of-over-slot-options-and-not-a-lot-to-spend.html#comment-16040 Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:21:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33441#comment-16040 Jason Churchill for ESPN is saying that Appel, if the Pirates dont offer 5 mill, should go back to school and be drafted in the top 2 pick next year. Doesnt he realize that next year is not a given considering that it is a better draft. How much could he improve on his stat line from this year?

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