Comments on: Trade Values – Chase Headley http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: szielinski http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16331 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:31:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16331 The Padres already have a very strong MiL system. They have pitching and position players. Therefore, trading for a group of middling prospects by sending away a decent ML player who will not be a salary burden makes little sense for the Padres. Because the Padres have a strong MiL system, I expect them to want in return a very-high ceiling player who is close to the Majors. I wouldn’t trade Cole or Taillon for Headley. Nor would I trade Heredia or Bell.

Why not? The reasoning is simple: The Pirates will not contend for a WS title in 2012. Headley might enable the Pirates to win the 2012 Division title. But I also would not count on that happening. Consequently, the Pirates should not trade away a top talent — or top talent — for a player in the midst of his peak season(s) during the 2012 season. The future is not now. If the Pirates want to make a trade in the near future, the team ought to trade for a younger player with a high ceiling who would peak in 2-3 years. The team, if everything breaks right, may be striving for a WS title in a few years. To my mind, trading prospects for MLers able to provide immediate help but who are well into their ML careers is a Drive for 75 (or 83) move for an organization that should have left that bad strategy behind it when it shed the McClatchy Partnership and the McClatchyfield management regime.

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By: pirateswillwinin2012 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16326 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:27:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16326 Grossman, Owens, d’ Arnaud, Cain is a fair package if your going off of Headley’s #s. I feel Cain is still intriguing to teams because of his age, frame and arm.

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By: pirateswillwinin2012 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16325 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:56:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16325 Grossman is from San Diego too, for a fun fact of the day.

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By: pirateswillwinin2012 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16324 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:38:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16324 So wait your saying “We are going to have to give away something of significance” to get Headley. But yet your saying he is no better then a Casey McGehee based off his numbers, in which your totally right if your going off #s. So you really think NH and Byrnes don’t see his stats? Headley hit 4 HRs last year. OPS in the 700′s. What can Byrnes really expect? Plus they have Gyorko in waiting. I think Byrnes would take a 2-3 player package of younger upside guys.

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By: st1300b http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16308 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:54:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16308 I like the Headley idea, especially if he’s moved to RF – and for the players, Lincoln is still the piece to go along with a Gorky’s or perhaps Hauge.

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By: Kevin_Creagh http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16304 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 02:37:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16304 The rebuilding Pads have no need for a closer scheduled to make $7M+ in his final year of team control in 2013. Your Grossman-McPherson-Owens proposal is more fair, I think.

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By: PiratesFan http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16302 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 02:02:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16302 Or would they take Hanrahan, Grossman, and McPherson?

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By: PiratesFan http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16301 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 01:58:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16301 Grossman, McPherson, Owens, and maybe D’Arnaud? Would that work?

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By: John DiVito http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16288 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:11:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16288 I agree with you that Headley is headed in the right direction for his career and McGehee is headed in the wrong direction. Plus Headley being a good fielding 3B is a plus. Pedro has been ok this year, which is better than he has been in the past.

My point was to throw some water on the Headley fire, as I don’t think he’s THE ANSWER that some people think he would be. He would be an effective player, but I would be hesitant to give up multiple of our top 10 prospects for him, as some are suggesting we do.

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By: Thom Kay http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/06/trade-values-chase-headley.html#comment-16285 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:29:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=33925#comment-16285 Matt Hague and Josh Harrison haven’t put up anywhere near the offensive production that Headley has the past two years. While you are correct that Headley is not a power hitter, he is still consistent and effective.

Hague has done nothing to demonstrate that he can hit consistently at the major league level. Furthermore, he’s not a 3B. Headley is, and a solid fielder at that.

You are also comparing McGehee’s and Headley’s career numbers again. Headley has gotten better over the past few years, while McGehee was good in ’09 and ’10 and has been below average since (though he is hot right now).

This isn’t to say that Headley is necessarily worth trading for. I would hate to give up too much. But there is sufficient reason to believe that he would be a significant upgrade for the team.

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