Comments on: Padres Asking Pirates For a Significant Package of Prospects For Headley http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: Dave Parker's Unfiltered Camel http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17977 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:57:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17977 You are probably right, but that is an issue unless they find a true leadoff hitter via trade. Given the value placed on some of these rentals, I dont see it happening. Marte is not a true leadoff hitter. Maybe they would platoon him with Presley.

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By: Todd Smith http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17964 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:30:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17964 I would think if the Pirates bring in another outfielder (or promote Marte) it would take more playing time away from Presley than Jones.

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By: Bryan Graham http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17963 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:02:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17963 I agree with most of the post here already. I definitely see a lead off guy as the teams biggest need. It’s too bad the Presley isn’t getting the job done but would be a nice bench option. Secondly I would like to see an additional pitcher. As of now the only 3 guys I have faith in are Burnett, Karstens, and Correa. I know, Correa, but you can basically write down 3 runs and 6 innings everytime he pitches. Here’s to hoping J-Mac finds his command again, but I would definitely like to see another reliable arm (not Maholm) to sure things up.

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By: Ian Rothermund http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17962 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:36:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17962 Wow. 4 dislikes. Lol. I’m sorry, I was under the impression that the Bucs already had 3 corner infielders that were performing well. Also, that an issu in their lineup was having a reliable lead off type batter with a solid OBP that can fill a corner outfield spot. My bad.

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By: F Lang http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17960 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:49:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17960 I’d rather just see us go get a cheaper option that is decent. Like a Ben Francisco. Over a few month span a solid player who gets a chance to jump in a pennant race and get consistent playing time can be lightning in a bottle. Any player can struggle or play very well for a few months so unless you can get a star player or get a player you can control for 2-3 years, giving up a lot of your system isn’t worth it.

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By: Rick Peluso http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17959 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:48:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17959 Choo would be interesting as you said he’s rebounded from a bad year and is only recently removed from two .300, 20+ home runs years which again fits more of a corner outfielder role versus a guy like Victorino or Pierre type. I agree the Indians should be sellers as they will not catch the Tigers and the AL wild card race looks very tight at the top, but if they would be willing to deal a player like Choo would remain to be seen. Again, like I said I’m looking for an offense first player over a defensive upgrade because at his lowest value Marte fills that defensive hole as some said he could push McCutchen to left. If you’re looking for a player you can control I don’t think you mortgage the farm system and go after Justin Upton, disregarding the fact that the DBacks are looking for major league ready talent, because it’s just far too costly over the long run. The long term goal should be to compete perennially and a massive deal like the ones Tim proposed for Upton just wouldn’t make sense for the organization going forward. I’d be much more interested in Jason Kubel from the DBacks if they became sellers because he’s absolutely raking this year, but I doubt Arizona is even contemplating moving him. Overall though if the goal if a low risk, salary take-on I say Soriano profiles as the ideal pickup, but he’s just one guy. I’d be interested to hear about other possibilities now that Quentin is off the market as teams are starting to place more value on their bats.

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By: F Lang http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17958 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:42:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17958 I would be very intersted in Headley if Pedro was struggling but we just don’t have the need at 3B and like the article said, he just doesn’t have the value in the OF that he does at third. To me, Headley has just never shown the power or ability to hit lefties good enough to garner a big package of prospects.

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By: Dave Parker's Unfiltered Camel http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17957 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:11:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17957 The Bucs need a corner outfielder, not a third baseman. Ideally it’s Marte. He’s young, plays great defense and costs nothing in prospects. of course, that depends on if he is ready. A corner outfielder that produces offensively makes the team better. It puts Jones and Mcgehee back into a true platoon situation at first. Jones will rake against right handlers, Casey against lefties. This scenario has the potential of strengthening the bench, especially looking at late inning pinch hitting situations.

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By: joegoodman29 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17954 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:44:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17954 Soriano would be great, at least as a power hitter. He’s a well below average fielder and I’m sure the Cubs would want us eating a large portion of that very large contract. Victorino would give you some great D, speed on the bases but no power hitting. He doesn’t hit for high enough average to be a lead off guy either. I wonder if the Indians would ever part with Shin-Soo Choo. Bats around .300, double digits HRs, He’s 2nd year arbitration eligible and under contract through 2014. Had a terrible year last year but has bounced back decently. I really think the Indians should be selling. Tigers are starting to roll and the White Sox are better than them as well…

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By: Rick Peluso http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/padres-asking-pirates-for-a-significant-package-of-prospects-for-headley.html#comment-17953 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:25:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=37175#comment-17953 Completely agree, but on the same note why is Shane Victorino such a sought after commodity? We’re talking about a guy who would supposedly fill a corner outfield spot with an average in the .250s and eight home runs? This is a completely lateral move in my opinion as with this move you take away time the Jones/McGehee as their platoon would be effected with Jones seeing less time in the outfield. If you’re going to go out and take on salary for a rental outfielder why not at least go after one who profiles at the position and get an Alfonso Soriano type who has 18 homers, a .268 average, and 54 RBIs. Nutting has said the Bucs are ready to take on payroll so this is the kind of move that needs to be made; not a move for another outfielder whose glove is playing better than his bat right now. This is also disregarding Starling Marte who could fill the hole with no assets being given up once he starts showing consistency at AAA. I agree with Tim when he says that the team doesn’t “Need” to make a move to stay in the conversation for the playoffs. Just because the Victorino name is popular doesn’t make him a solution and overvaluing him because of that would be wrong.

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