Comments on: Pittsburgh Pirates 2012 Draft Pick Signing Deadline Preview http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: Kevin_Creagh http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17439 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:56:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17439 Yes. A player can not be traded for 1 year after his SIGNING date (not the date of the draft). He can be included, but only as a “player to be named later” and those have 6 month maximums so Appel could not be included in any trade (in any fashion) until January 14th, 2013.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17425 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:42:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17425 No, just the picks that are given up by other teams.

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By: Matt http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17421 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:29:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17421 I was under the impression that any team that goes 0-5% over slot loses their entries in ALL competitive balance lotteries, not just the one for lost draft picks as you seem to suggest.

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By: piratemike http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17403 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:46:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17403 In effect it was the players union that put an end to that, the league just went along for labor peace. The more money that goes to draftees and agents the less money goes to the union bosses.

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By: Ben Hohlfelder http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17401 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:26:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17401 If Appel is signed, are there rules about him being traded this year at the deadline?

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17400 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:10:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17400 13 teams are involved in the first lottery.

The 7 teams that didn’t get a pick go in to the second lottery. They are joined by any team that receives revenue sharing money.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17399 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:09:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17399 If Appel doesn’t sign, and the 4th and 8th round picks don’t sign, they’d have $159,430 to go over the pool. That would be a total of $768,830 for over-slot picks.

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By: F Lang http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17398 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:53:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17398 if we get an early lottery pick and a comp pick for Appel day one will be a very busy day for the bucs next year. One thing that bothers me with the new system is with the Bucs improving this year, we would have been picking later, so instead of having to pay 6-8 mil on the high 1st rounder we would only be dropping 1-3 mil on the #1 next year leaving far more money to spend on over slot picks in the old system if we kept the draft budget the same. It would have ruffled the feathers of the league office even more to see the Bucs going over slot on 3,4,5 more kids.

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By: Dave Parker's Unfiltered Camel http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17397 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:46:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17397 If Appel does not sign, Boras has done a major disservice to his client. All of Appel’s leverage was this year with his ability to go back to Stanford, which is why a team would be willing to go over slot to sign him. He may not get the money of the first pick, but he still gets more than slot for where he was drafted. Next year he has no leverage. No team will have to pay over slot to sign him. In terms of investment dollars, he will have to sign next year for over $4.0 million to equal what he is giving up this year. He could end up losing app. $1.0 million by not signing. This is good business?

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By: JuiceBoxBoy http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pittsburgh-pirates-2012-draft-pick-signing-deadline-preview.html#comment-17392 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36123#comment-17392 Excellent breakdown and explanation of the possibilities.

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