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	<title>Comments on: The High Asking Prices For Hunter Pence and Shane Victorino</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lindblom is not THAT much different than Brad Lincoln (plus he&#039;s 3 years younger) and Ethan Martin has very good stuff, he just doesn&#039;t command it all that well, so he still has a pretty high ceiling.


They got fleeced last year on the Pence deal. They traded for him at the absolute peak of his value and then people were surprised that his numbers went down this year when his BAbip returned to right around .300 where it was in &#039;08,&#039;09 and &#039;10. Truth be told, the Phillies actually were pretty fortunate that Pence stayed as hot as he did down the stretch for them last year given that his BAbip was an unsustainable .368 when they dealt for him and he kept it at .348...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindblom is not THAT much different than Brad Lincoln (plus he&#8217;s 3 years younger) and Ethan Martin has very good stuff, he just doesn&#8217;t command it all that well, so he still has a pretty high ceiling.</p>
<p>They got fleeced last year on the Pence deal. They traded for him at the absolute peak of his value and then people were surprised that his numbers went down this year when his BAbip returned to right around .300 where it was in &#8217;08,&#8217;09 and &#8217;10. Truth be told, the Phillies actually were pretty fortunate that Pence stayed as hot as he did down the stretch for them last year given that his BAbip was an unsustainable .368 when they dealt for him and he kept it at .348&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James S</title>
		<link>http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/08/the-high-asking-prices-for-hunter-pence-and-shane-victorino.html#comment-18697</link>
		<dc:creator>James S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, Tim. I said the same thing. I&#039;ll take the power/extra base hit prospect for 4+ years over a two month rental any day, regardless of who we would be trading. But for Lincoln alone, straight up, The Pirates did very well. Not only that, but Snider is a great clubhouse guy, well-liked by the players, and plays all out all the time. Few hitting prospects come with those intangibles. I tipped my hat to Huntington when I first read of the deal late Monday night, and couldn&#039;t believe they got Snider for nothing more than Lincoln. I say it may be his best deal ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, Tim. I said the same thing. I&#8217;ll take the power/extra base hit prospect for 4+ years over a two month rental any day, regardless of who we would be trading. But for Lincoln alone, straight up, The Pirates did very well. Not only that, but Snider is a great clubhouse guy, well-liked by the players, and plays all out all the time. Few hitting prospects come with those intangibles. I tipped my hat to Huntington when I first read of the deal late Monday night, and couldn&#8217;t believe they got Snider for nothing more than Lincoln. I say it may be his best deal ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Stasa</title>
		<link>http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/08/the-high-asking-prices-for-hunter-pence-and-shane-victorino.html#comment-18690</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Stasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also consider Victorino starts sliding later in the year.  His career OPS is .877 in July, .813 in Aug, and .721 in Sept/Oct.  


Pence actually goes the other way, .751 in July, .843 in Aug, and .863 in Sept/Oct.  Still not nearly worth what this says they were asking, especially for the year he&#039;s having so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also consider Victorino starts sliding later in the year.  His career OPS is .877 in July, .813 in Aug, and .721 in Sept/Oct.  </p>
<p>Pence actually goes the other way, .751 in July, .843 in Aug, and .863 in Sept/Oct.  Still not nearly worth what this says they were asking, especially for the year he&#8217;s having so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Young</title>
		<link>http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/08/the-high-asking-prices-for-hunter-pence-and-shane-victorino.html#comment-18679</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as Brilliant Bud is in control, it will never happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as Brilliant Bud is in control, it will never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: ponhaas</title>
		<link>http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/08/the-high-asking-prices-for-hunter-pence-and-shane-victorino.html#comment-18677</link>
		<dc:creator>ponhaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what&#039;s weird is the phillies kind of got nothing for victotino and gave up a lot more for pence last year than they received this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s weird is the phillies kind of got nothing for victotino and gave up a lot more for pence last year than they received this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Dimmick</title>
		<link>http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/08/the-high-asking-prices-for-hunter-pence-and-shane-victorino.html#comment-18674</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Dimmick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When will the MLB start to use a cap for large market teams? Overpaying for guys like this is getting out of hand. Even the Phillies dont want to pay it anymore!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the MLB start to use a cap for large market teams? Overpaying for guys like this is getting out of hand. Even the Phillies dont want to pay it anymore!</p>
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