Comments on: First Pitch: Navy SEALs Training…Only the Pirates…Plus a Ton of Other Teams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: keithconto http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21743 Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:04:37 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21743 As usual in your haste to defened your bread and butter, you missed an important point.

In one of your responses you mentioned that college teams do this. I’ll assume thats true and say this: Thats COLLEGE teams ! A very different environment on a number of levels.

1. Thers not millions of dollars invested in the players.
2. the college situation requires teams to come together very quickly. You might only have a particular player for a year or 2. And the emphasis in college is to win now.
3. Professional development requires a different level of traing. These kids are training for their profession. College kids are playing to get that chance.

To another point. This story IS bigger than the local media/fans duking it out. When it gets mentioned in national media and certain pod casts it’s no longer local.

This ORG is an industry-wide joke. Thats not MY opinion. It’s Keith Laws. At some point it doesn’t matter what the details are. The perception takes over and THAT effects how and what your ORG is able to do.

Like it or not. If real or percieved failings prevent you from reaching your goals, you have to make a chance. It might not be fair. ( I happen to think it is) . But it is reality. If everyone thinks your stupid and start to NOT to want to do business with your ORG, you have to make changes in order toi survive.

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By: jlease717 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21715 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:19:56 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21715 You seem to have a beef with me Wilbur. Maybe I should just agree with every idiotic thing posted and we can be pals. If you feel like you can be as snarky as you want to be an others can’t, I’d like to know how that works. Defending this garbage is ludicrous. You won’t do it yourself, but defend it’s defenders.

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By: jlease717 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21714 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:17:09 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21714 Good points? He hates the Pirates? Talk about being as non-objective as possible.

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By: jlease717 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21713 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:15:41 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21713 What, like not always reporting all is well after 20 losing seasons? True, he doesn’t do that.

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By: jlease717 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21712 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:13:50 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21712 It’s beyond belief that it is defended. Well, except in past practices. Whatever dumb thing the Pirates do will have defenders, evidently. Maybe if they start murdering their prospects, that will induce universal condemnation.

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By: AtomK13 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21697 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:57:14 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21697 While I don’t disagree with your conclusion, your premise is misstated. Law DID NOT interview Taillon. He merely reconveyed Kovacevic’s story (though he said he had heard rumors that Taillon was injured in 2010). Law DID NOT “report[] that agents are advising their clients…” He was speculating that this COULD happen, and not that it already HAD happened. I had to listen to his statement multiple times to be sure, but it’s true.

Personally, I think Appel’s retweet is meaningless until someone (perhaps the professional reporter who’s making grand assumptions about it) actually ASKS HIM why he retweeted it. It’s every bit as likely that he read it (after Law RT’d the article (he follows Law, and not DK)) and thought (1) “Man, am I glad I dodged that bullet” as it is (2) “I’m glad the whole world now knows why I didn’t sign.” I’m not saying that the mere possibility of (1) being true isn’t a sign of a problem here, but I think it’s pretty haphazard to act like it’s a foregone conclusion.

Finally, I think it’s pretty irresponsible to call the opposing side of your argument “apologists” and then fly off the cuff with unsubstantitated accusations (re: Appel) and misinformation (re: Law) because in totality, it really hurts your credibility as a commenter.

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By: michaelbro8 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21696 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:51:04 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21696 Jeez; tis is SO blown out of proportion. This is NOT an actual SEALS training program that the real soldiers go through; it’s a toned-down program designed more for team building and improvement of self confidence. If you research further you’ll learn that it is very highly regarded by several sports teams and others. And you can’t simply say that a team shouldn’t do it for fear of injury; if that’s the case then teams should play games ONLY ! No practice; no training, cause they might get hurt ! Or you could argue that since Lucroy got the busted hand from his wife dropping a suitcase on it, teams should ban players from having :
a) suitcases
b) wives
Sorry, but this whole thing is silly.

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By: boxerkramer http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21694 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:21:02 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21694 Most individuals who come out on the other side of such training are more enlightened and open, not the other way around! As some would want you to believe . .

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By: boxerkramer http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21693 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:16:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21693 If the Pirates were a winning organization they wouldnt have to try outlandish things. Truth is they havent figured it out in 20 years! If they didnt have guys show up from their minor league system with major flaws in their fundamentals and constant mental lapses then it would not require such outside the box thinking. We all know the owners past and present will not break the bank so to speak on this team, and the management teams past and present have not figured out a way to put a winning team on the field, but I do however applaud them for atleast attempting something different. If you all want to BELIEVE that Mark Appel did not sign with the Pirates or any other future draft pick for that matter because of 3 days of SEALS training, then go right ahead! I guarantee when push comes to shove we all know what the deciding factor is in every draft, $, not a 3 day SEAL training!

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By: Josh Skipper http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-navy-seals-training-only-the-pirates-plus-a-ton-of-other-teams.html#comment-21692 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:06:55 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43454#comment-21692 If it was just three days why was Polanco jumping through sand and on a midnight scavenger hunt two weeks ago?

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