Comments on: First Pitch: The Questionable Decision to Trade Away the Compensation Pick http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Tue, 27 May 2014 01:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: F Lang http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21375 Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:46:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21375 I feel like we filled a perpetual gaping hole for next year. Sanchez is not my ideal 1B power-wise but we have good team power and he will hit for a little pop and do enough other things to help. One other important thing is he gives you solid AB’s on a team that K’s a ton. The Orioles and Bucs are similar i feel like…except they have more power, their pitching didn’t cave, and they have a good leadoff hitter who unfortunately for us is nate McLouth. I cant even blame the Bucs fo for this. I saw Nate all April and he looked done. He didn’t look good at the plate, in the field, on the bases…more of the Pirates just not catching a break.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21359 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:57:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21359 j: I agree 100%. Hernandez was going to be gone at the end of 2012 one way or another. We have the #9 and the #13 picks in the 1st Round and a decent low number in the 2nd Round. We needed a defensive 1B, and preferably something that could provide some punch in the middle of the order. The Pirates have plenty in the tank as far as prospects who are 2-3 years away, so IMO, this was a no-brainer. If Gaby Sanchez qualified for a year of MLB Service this year he will go to Arbitration the first time. He made 483K in 2012. He gave us excellent D, decent batting average and better than average OBP. I liked this guy a year ago, but I thought he was untouchable in Miami – a quality player, good clubhouse presence. In my 2013 lineup, he starts at 1B and Jones starts in RF.

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By: ecbucs http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21328 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:26:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21328 I was talking more about the folks that supplied the info that Sanchez would be a good player to acquire. I realize he may not have been available if he was having a good season but the point I was trying to make was the Bucs took a gamble to get him and lets see if scouts were right that he can be a plus contributor to the team.

These would be the same folks that made reports on Barmes, Barajas, Bedard, McGehee, Qualls, etc. that indicated they could help the ballclub.

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By: Brian Churney http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21327 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:20:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21327 Don’t underestimate the importance of front office’s instability in this. While I generally thing they’ve done a great job of not selling out so they win before they lose their jobs, I felt like this move may have been influenced by that sentiment. Even if the pick works out, you’re looking at it being probably 2-3 years before the major league club benefits. If the pick doesn’t work out, then it’s a publicly failed draft pick. Sanchez could help now, and if he does win a few more games for them, it may save some jobs.

I don’t like the logic at all obviously, but just wanted to note that it may have been an influencing factor.

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By: Curtis http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21324 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:04:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21324 I agree that this was a bad trade. One aspect that the article doesn’t mention is that under the new draft rules it makes a huge difference how much your total pot is, and this pick added measurably to that pot. Even if there is nobody that you are interested in at #33, you can sign a senior for $10K with this pick and have the rest of the money to court other signings. That alone makes up more than the difference between Sanchez and Hague for me.

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By: whiteAngus http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21323 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:19:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21323 much maligned? you mean the same people who were able to get really good seasons out of Cutch/Walker/Jones and Pedro???
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sanchez would have cost a lot more if he were having a good season, and he may not have been made available at all.

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By: ecbucs http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21322 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:47:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21322 I see Sanchez as at best a platoon player at first so the price was too high. If he had been having a decent season in majors with Marlins this year it would have been ok (performing like he did in 2010 and 2011) Since he had struggled all this season and been sent to the minors he shouldn’t have cost the pick. It doesn’t sound like anybody has seen the pitcher and been impressed with his stuff so I don’t see him as more than a throw in. Maybe the much maligned Pirate scouts saw something in him. We’ll find out if that was the case next year.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21321 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:34:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21321 Draft day the Pirates probably would wish they had the 33rd pick in the draft, but that pick is not going to make or break them, I don’t even know if they would be able to sign them considering the money that they will have to spend for the first 2 picks they have, they may even have to take a signable over what they really want in the 2nd round.
IMO, baseball is a very complicated game for GM’s. You have the, I need to make a move now problem, then you have the what about the future move problem, sometimes you can’t have it both ways.
The Pirates IMO, should be looking for 2 more stout starting pitchers, 2 stout relievers and a couple of coaches and I think they could make a legit run next year. I am not critical of their development programs because the coaching in the minors is getting the players to AAA and they are performing well at AAA, their major league development however is another matter, this is where I think they need better coaching to work with these young guys when they come up.

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By: john.alcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21317 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:16:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21317 A MLB average 1B for three years in exchange for a wild card, not seeing how this is a bad trade. Even the slot value would only be $1 million and its not like you can take all of that for another player, you still have to sign your 33rd pick. Your best case result from that pick is an average MLB starter at what a 15% chance?

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By: Bill Tull http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/first-pitch-the-questionable-decision-to-trade-away-the-compensation-pick.html#comment-21312 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:55:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43022#comment-21312 I would’ve paid someome off to take Gorkys off the team, especially the 40-man roster. Look what he’s done in extended playing time in Miami. A solid move to get a guy to play 1B who traditionally can hit LHP (.291 avg., career .869 OPS) for three seasons for another pick. This was a move to better the team now, rather than later, NH usually gets criticized for playing too much in the future and this was the right move for now.

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