Comments on: Pirates Claim Two Players, DFA Clement and Fryer http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:32:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: beatembuccos21 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21736 Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:40:35 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21736 Forgot to mention that the 2011 replacement – Lyle Overbay – was signed to a one year $5 million dollar deal. That’s less than Hinske made in the three years of 2009, 2010 and 2011 combined.

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By: Scott Stauffer http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21733 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:16:37 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21733 The question that keeps running through my head about these kinds of moves and the Hoka Hey stuff is “Why is our team spending so much time and effort on stuff that just does not improve the team or the players.”

NH spends this much time rearranging deck chairs on the very bottom of the 40 man roster?

And, the players shouldn’t be going through Navy SEAL drills – the front office should. That training is about overcoming obstacles and pushing through adversity. The team collapses two years in a row and the Single A players have to go through this training? The mgmt team should be learning how to respond when things go bad.

PLEASE STOP FOCUSING ON THIS PERIPHERAL STUFF AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE THE MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM A WINNER.

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By: beatembuccos21 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21732 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:03:36 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21732 Hinske had a higher OPS than Buc 1B in both 2010 and 2011. Average years or not, NH got less value in return for him in the trade and was also unable to find a suitable replacement. That’s a failure.

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By: jalcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21729 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:37:24 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21729 Hey, MLB bullpen is the one place that NH has demonstrated pretty good skill in finding cheap productive arms.

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By: jalcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21728 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:36:12 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21728 Hey emj, I’m with you in the “no big deal” camp, but that has become irrelevant. If players and teams are laughing at our approach its a problem. We can’t succeed in player development if the players don’t buy into the plan. We also can’t afford any more reasons why players may choose to not come here.

I feel like NH and Co. have done enough wrong to justify a change, unfortunately this stuff is the catalyst. I’ve said many times that NH has been an average GM, fear should not prevent Nutting from trying to do better.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21727 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:34:49 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21727 j: I am in LR which is a link to HR and I cannot begin to tell you the idiotic (IMO) exercises – mental and physical team building, that I have been subjected to over the years. I can remember the ones a few years ago where people would go out in the woods in teams, or go whitewater rafting, mountain climbing, and any other challenging effort. Stark definitely marches to a different drummer. Our armed forces have been using similar team building techniques for hundreds of years with great success. I guess you can count me in that number of folks who are just pleased they are trying whatever they can to improve.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21726 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:31:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21726 do you have a Beer Temple link? I couldn’t find it on the site.

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By: jalcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21725 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:22:53 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21725 Seems pretty clear there is a gag order in place until Bob decides what to do. These guys don’t want to tighten the noose any further especially after NH tied himself to Stark a few weeks ago.

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By: Thom Kay http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21724 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:17:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21724 Can’t help it, I always get just a touch hopeful when I see posts like this.

Chad Beck’s problem is that he isn’t missing bats. His BB% would indicate that he doesn’t have a serious control problem, and he’s got some real heat. Jason Grilli couldn’t strike people out until his age 28-29 seasons either. Maybe Beck will be good?

No. No, probably not.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/10/pirates-claim-two-players-dfa-clement-and-fryer.html#comment-21723 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:06:46 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43534#comment-21723 Here’s a little info on our new 40 man reliever

http://seedlingstostars.com/2011/11/11/the-stuff-that-dreams-are-made-of-chad-beck/

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