Comments on: Report: Pirates Offering $25 M for Russell Martin http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 15 Nov 2014 03:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: michaelbro8 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22389 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:11:59 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22389 Not really, Martin is just a year or two behind being Barajas; if you track his numbers season by season that’s glaringly apparent. As to your question: it suggests that they sign someone just to sign someone. If there is no good option out there (and there isn’t), you DON’T sign anyone.

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By: Fred Langford http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22375 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:49:51 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22375 That’s a little better. Not much. I am slowly talking myself into Martin because of the defense and his toughness. We need more hard-nosed type of guys who are born tough and dont need marine training to get to that point. My worry isnt so much if he can play, it’s the price he plays at. I hate to see us overpay with money we could be spending on a better player or signing Walker or someone else to a deal.

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By: kimbercarry http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22353 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:32:23 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22353 I have no problem if the Pirates were to spend that kind of money if it’s the right move. It has nothing to do with Kool- Aid my friend. My problem is spending it on a guy like Martin. Have you watched him play the last few years? I have on plenty of occassions and I don’t feel he’s worth that kind of money. I don’t see him as plus defender and I feel the little bit he has produced has been a product of playing at Yankees Stadium and the fact that he’s been hitting in a lineup loaded with sluggers that given the choice, pitchers would rather pitch around and go after Martin. In 133 games last year he hit .211, 21 HR, 53 RBI and .311 OBP. McKenry in 88 games hit .233 with 12 HR, 39 RBI and .320 OBP. Avg. those numbers out over another 45 games and your not that far off from Martins production for a lot less money and McKenry isn’t hitting in Yankee Stadium and he doesn’t have the studs batting in the same lineup with him that Martin does. I’m sure someone will come back and say “yea but McKenry had a carreer year”. Maybe he did but maybe he didn’t. Maybe he’s got that kind of production in him next year and the year after. The sample size is to small to know. I’m willing to give the kid another year to see what he can do and it will cost a heck of a lot less.

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By: Fred Langford http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22352 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:54:19 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22352 Yes, you were right I was looking at the league averages. Thx for the correcton. That makes me feel a little better that at least we’ll have a guy that can control the running game. PNC will erase him as a guy that can come close to 20HR I think. He hit 39 HR in 2 years in NYS and 54 in 5 years in LA.

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By: whiteAngus http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22350 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:19:10 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22350 looks like the Pirates offer was originally for 2 seasons, but was upped to 3 years and $22MM

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/pirates-yankees-pursuing-russell-martin.html

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By: jalcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22349 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:13:53 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22349 Well I’ll edit my comment to “huge understatement”. The cost of a win this past season was nearly $6 million, most say it will increase to $8-9 million with the new money next year. Paying Martin $25 million for three years is only 4 wins by today’s dollars and likely 3 wins by tomorrow’s. Martin has posted 7.4 wins the last 3 years. He’ll almost certainly be worth $8 million a year.

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By: rodneyave http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22347 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:09:54 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22347 Barajas and Martin are very different friend. Who do you suggest they sign?

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22346 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 03:35:11 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22346 It’s pretty standard. You get information from people who want to remain anonymous. You’re not going to burn them by mentioning their name, otherwise you’re not going to get anymore information from them (or any other source).

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22345 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 02:39:51 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22345 Why do journalist always cite ‘sources’?

My sources tell me that is lazy journalism.

The Trib does that wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much, imho.

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By: michaelbro8 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/report-pirates-offering-25-m-for-russell-martin.html#comment-22333 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:55:21 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44393#comment-22333 God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No ! God No !

didn’t they learn anything from the Barajas ordeal ?

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