Comments on: Russell Martin Is a Symbol of the Weak Catching Market http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21994 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:23:41 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21994 @leadoff : I wouldn’t disagree with both of your points leadoff looking back now. However,if Littlefield had done his due diligence in 2007,taking Posey in ” 08 might not have been necessary. Not only did he pass on Wieters for Moskos,he also passed up Devin Mesaraco and then Yasmani Grandall later, if I’m not mistaken. He, ( Littlefield ) in my opinion, committed many more drafting mistakes than are usuall out in the open.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21986 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 11:06:26 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21986 j: Are the Pirates going to promote Tony Sanchez? You know that will not happen until at least June. It is the era of former Catchers as successful Managers, so why not get the player/mentor/coach combo? Where the minimum is around $500K, I see $2 mil as a bare minimum for what he can bring. After Sanchez does his time at AAA, bring him up and keep Barajas in a different capacity.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21985 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:55:46 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21985 I think the Pirates would have signed Doumit, Maholm, Wilson and Sanchez for less. All were given generous contracts and the thought was that they would be worth the kind of money that was back-end-loaded. However, when it gets to that point and the guys have not earned consideration for anything near that, it is their call whether they want to take less to stay. Doumit got $3 mil and he is right where he belongs – in the AL where he had extra value as a DH. Maholm got half of what he was due in a Club Option from Pittsburgh to go to the Cubs. He would still be a Pirate if he would have taken that.from the Pirates. Atlanta has accepted the CO for 2013, which is around $6 mil, and I think he is in a good place for he and his family.

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By: beatembuccos21 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21984 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:21:08 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21984 Can we all stack hands and agree that Huntington bungled:
1. Giving Doumit an extension that was too heavily weighted on the back end. He was going to get $15 million plus for two years while MIN has locked him up for three years at $10 million.

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2. Not getting him to stay in Pittsburgh at a reduced rate. The fact that the Pirates paid Barajas another $1 million over what Doumit got and signed him about two weeks before MIN inked Doumit drives me batty.

I don’t care if the guy is hurt for half the season. Give me 80 games of McKenry behind the plate, 60 games of Doumit and let Sanchez or someone else handle the other 22. I’d be happy and I’d be happy on the cheap.

There was talk after the 2010 season that Brian Sabean was lucky – all of his moves in 2010 paid off, the team won in spite of some bad FA signings by him, that he hadn’t done much well except in picking his first round picks etc.. Sometimes you make your own luck and Huntington botched the handling of Doumit two times. The 2012 Pirates paid for his mistakes.

Also, Tim – is John going to post something about Pascual Perez’ death? I expected to read something on this site about it and have been surprised by the silence regarding his murder.

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By: jalcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21983 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:10:24 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21983 There’s little reason to think Atlanta will let Ross get away. McCann just had surgery and will miss the first few weeks of 2013.

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By: kimbercarry http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21982 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:54:11 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21982 Bingo Lee. That draft mistake is costing us big time right now. Another one that I’m anxious to see how it turns out…… I really liked Manny Machado in 2010. I hope Tailon pans out in the long run.

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By: Stephen Stull http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21981 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:40:14 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21981 Completely agree that he would be a better option than Barajas or Martin. I live in ATL now and have watched Ross play the last couple of years. He’s not great but should be relatively cheap and would perform better than Barajas.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21980 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:29:48 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21980 Thom….I agree…we had him once….let’s get him again.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21979 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:29:09 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21979 In hindsight, Weiters over Moskos.

I’d like BOTH Pedro and Weiters.

C Foo

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/11/russell-martin-is-a-symbol-of-the-weak-catching-market.html#comment-21978 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:27:50 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=43761#comment-21978 jalcorn….agree….still hoping for a trade of some kind for some young, at least semi-promising catcher.

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