Comments on: Today is the Deadline to Protect Rule 5 Players

By: beatembuccos21

beatembuccos21 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:43:19 +0000

Whoever wrote the player page for Strickland disagrees.

I thought the Huntington template for a reliever was Chad Qualls?

By: Kevin Creagh

Kevin Creagh — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:22:37 +0000

Not really. He’s a big pitcher with a solid fastball and a decent slider. That’s pretty much a Neil Huntington template for a reliever, as I mentioned this morning when I said he was a dark horse to be added.

By: Justin

Justin — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:13:02 +0000

hmm no Gift. hope he sticks around.

also interesting that they still have an open spot.

By: beatembuccos21

beatembuccos21 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:08:55 +0000

Strickland is a head scratcher:

“He’ll be eligible for the Rule 5 draft this fall but he’s very unlikely to be selected.”

http://players.piratesprospects.com/2010/02/hunter-strickland.html

By: jalcorn

jalcorn — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:00:25 +0000

Per Biertempfel its these 5 – Black, Cabrera, Irwin, Sanchez & Strickland

By: Tim Williams

Tim Williams — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:14:06 +0000

The lack of talent this year is because of how those drafts went. The players eligible for this draft are 2008 high school guys and 2009 college guys. The Pirates went college heavy in 2008 and high school heavy in 2009. Because of that, there are fewer players to protect for this draft.

Also, some of the players who would have been protected have either been dealt away or added. Brock Holt is already on the 40-man, but would have been first time eligible this year. Robbie Grossman would have been eligible if he wasn’t traded. I think if you add those two to the list above, the decisions get a little tougher.

By: jalcorn

jalcorn — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:09:48 +0000

Is the lack of rule 5 eligible talent this year an indictment of the 2008/2009 drafts? Really, there are two guys on the list that need to be protected – Sanchez and Black. It will be interesting to see who else teh front office values from the long list of maybes. Last year Duke Welker got protected as a surprise, in 2010 it was Kyle McPherson.

By: jalcorn

jalcorn — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:07:23 +0000

Yeah since MLB added the extra year of control (4 years for college, 5 for HS/latin) the odds of players slipping through decreased significantly. The Rule 5 draft is really just a place to get bullpen arms these days.

It is curious why NH keeps going for bats.

By: Tim Williams

Tim Williams — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:08:01 +0000

For that to be possible, GMs from all around the league would have to conspire together to add these types of players to the 40-man, all to fool one GM into believing that a player’s value changes because he’s on the 40-man roster.

In short, no.

By: beatembuccos21

beatembuccos21 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:01:48 +0000

Is it possible that opposing GMs have placed good defensive SS on their 40 man roster to create a false sense of actual value for those players that they then used to lure NH into an ill-fated trade?