Comments on: First Pitch: 13 Boom or Bust Players Who Could Make a Difference in 2013 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: Kirk Weaver http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23567 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:53:30 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23567 The question was posed but not addressed and I was looking for your answer….Will the Pirates trade Garrett Jones ?

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By: Kirk Weaver http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23566 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:42:46 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23566 The Correia debacle was one of the most terrible moves by the management in years and may have been a huge negative moral factor and the heaviest straw that broke the back of the team in the second half

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By: Kirk Weaver http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23565 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:36:28 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23565 I being one of them although sucks may be a term I wouldn’t use, rather overrated defensively and well…..sucks may be as good a term as any to describe his offense !

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By: formerburgher http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23562 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 20:29:49 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23562 All this talk about CRobertson replacing Garett Jones is off base. Jones appears to be an emerging power hitter. He has improved each year since coming to the Bucs. Although he is a big guy he runs well and is very athletic. His power goes well at PNC’s short right field. He defense is adequate. They would do well to give him a 2 or 3 year contract. If you look at his power numbers he is a bargain.

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By: NorCal Buc http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23560 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:36:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23560 derek ~ I would NOT trade Marte,Tallion, Hanson or Polanco for Stanton. That being said………

I agree with leadoff for the most part ~ this F/O has turned a moribund franchise, with NO minor league talent, into a competing team, with more talent in the minors than we could ever dream of five years ago.

The past tow season of boom/bust has been integral in maturing into a winning team, and franchise. The first place standings of the past two summers point to the potential of this team. The collapses of the past two seasons point to the growing pains inherent in becoming a winning franchise.

Let’s review where we were five years ago. ONE star player – Jason Bay. Only one above average ~ Freddie Sanchez. As for the others – N Morgan, Paulino, J Wilson, J Bautista (at that time), R Doumit, x Nady, J Castillo, Ian Snell, M Gonzalez, P Maholm, etc. NONE of whom have made their mark since, save for Bautista. Our hopes in the minors then were B Eldred, C Duffy, and Rajai Davis, and pitching prospects were B Bullington and J Van Benschoten.

Today ~ ONE star player – Andrew McCutchen. GREAT upside potential to be a star at their position; THREE – Pedro Alvarez, Neal Walker, Starling Marte. Also, one of the following has this kind of talent: T Snyder, J Sands, J Tabata. The lower minors have several high impact starters.

The pitching comparisons are laughable. Now, they’re three studs in the pipeline with Cole, Tallion and L Heredia. Quality young starters already mentioned are J Locke. McPherson, J Wilson, C Morton.

The questions about this franchise pertain to the potential to play into October. THAT is tremendous progress.

Most importantly, these questions about playoff caliber team point to the success of Neil Huntington and the rest of the F/O

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By: derekbellstutu http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23556 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:20:37 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23556 What would Pirates fans-at-large think of Neal Huntington if he traded Starling Marte, Jameson Taillon, and Alen Hanson/Gregory Polanco for Giancarlo Stanton tomorrow? This is what I think it would take to acquire Stanton. I think Huntington is capable of a making this deal, but should he?

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By: Blue Bomber http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23554 Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:23:59 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23554 I see and understand your point, but I still think that if a team is going to invest a significant amount of resources into the amateur draft, then they should get some sort of advantage from doing it. In this case, the Pirates should have one of the better minor league systems in baseball. They don’t. Why? Did they draft the wrong players? Are they being poorly developed? Maybe the systems is on the cusp on seeing the results of this money? If not, I don’t see what the difference is between wasting money on the amateur draft and wasting it on marginal free agents. Neither makes the organization any better and both indicate the GM is not doing his job.

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By: beatembuccos21 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23553 Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:49:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23553 Lee – yes, that got very skinny on us.

I don’t think the Reds minor league pitchers are better than those in the Pirates system. That wasn’t my point. My point is that the Reds current ML rotation is quite a bit stronger. The Reds have five guys in their rotation with a track record of recent and ongoing success (or in the case of Leak recent performance in the neighborhood of league average). I don’t think there is going to be a wholesale faltering of the Reds rotation. But, in the possibility that one guy gets hurt or pitches horribly, the Reds have someone (or two) who is ready to step in by mid-season. At the ML level, the Reds rotation is better and I think they will have to rely less on their minor leaguers to step in.

The Pirates minor league starting pitching depth is quite a bit stronger than the Reds, IMO. Especially in the high minors.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23552 Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:29:17 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23552 I don’t know how anyone can make a statement that the Reds minor league pitchers are better than the Pirates pitchers or that the Pirate minor league pitchers are better than the Reds pitchers, statistics for minor league pitchers can be very deceiving.
The Pirates have 3 that can pitch at the major league level right now and that are pretty close to ready, I don’t know if the Reds have that many and that does not include any of the Pirates top prospects.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-13-boom-or-bust-players-who-could-make-a-difference-in-2013.html#comment-23551 Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:24:15 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45365#comment-23551 Every team in baseball is loaded with question marks, this is an argument that can’t be won by anyone because the answers have not happened yet. I will take the Pirates starting 8 as a solid quality group of players, I know they could stub their toes or just play bad, but we don’t live in a vacuum, something negative can happen to anyone, I refuse to be drawn into the what if game, if that is all we care about we can never go forward.

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