Comments on: First Pitch: Joel Hanrahan’s Trade Value and Jason Grilli’s Contract http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Tue, 23 Sep 2014 23:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: bench player http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22900 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:13:12 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22900 My comment was agreeing with Tim and the first post on this subject

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22899 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:07:29 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22899 0%

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By: piratemike http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22898 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:05:19 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22898 What are the odds that the Bucs’ get no takers and just cut him ? Is that possible?

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22897 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:53:11 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22897 That seems to be more of an idea than a rumor. Seems like a connect-the-dots situation. I haven’t actually seen a report saying the two sides have discussed this.

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By: whereswaldo10 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22894 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:28:11 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22894 Do you believe the Hanrahan for Porcello rumor? I would think a 23 year old pitcher with 3 more years of control would work out quite nicely for the Bucs. If the Tigers re-sign Anibal Sanchez, could this happen?

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22893 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:19:45 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22893 That was in reference to the price. I don’t think the Pirates should pay that much for a set-up man. Signing Grilli for 2/$6.75 as a closer looks better than spending that money for a set-up man.

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By: Thom Kay http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22892 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:09:03 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22892 “I don’t think the deal looks bad IF he’s closing” indicated that you put higher value on production in the 9th versus the 8th. There is an argument for that, but I was pointing out that other teams would feel that way.
You didn’t make the point in the article that other teams would overvalue the “closer mentality,” which could raise Hanrahan’s trade value past his WAR, so I wanted to point it out.
p.s. Your proper use of the WAR Value tool is one of the best parts about this website.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22891 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:45 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22891 I disagree, how well or how poor Hanrahan pitches will determine his value during the season, also how well other closers are doing during the season will have an impact on Hanrahan’s value, remember there is a team known as the Dodgers that are expecting to win a world series this coming year and money is no object to them.
Trading Hanrahan now will net them very little IMO and when that happens the Pirates can count on a PR nightmare, at this point in time IMO the Pirates can’t win in any deal for Hanrahan.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22890 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:25:34 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22890 That’s not what I’m saying. His value will only go lower if they trade him during the season.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-joel-hanrahans-trade-value-and-jason-grillis-contract.html#comment-22889 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:25:02 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44906#comment-22889 I’m not sure what you’re referring to with the inconsistent use of WAR. Also, I’ve never been a guy who felt pitching in the 9th inning required a special skill or attitude.

I think other teams could overvalue the “closer mentality”, which is why I would expect Hanrahan’s value to be closer to the 2011 numbers, rather than the 2012 numbers.

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