Comments on: First Pitch: What the Pirates Can Take Away From the Royals/Rays Deal http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22896 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:49:15 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22896 @Tony Pena : ” What does Greinke have to do with my remark? ” What Greinke has to do with your remark about Wandy is to point out that he really didn’t pitch over head head last year as you mentioned. He was as consistent over a 3 year period as the guy who just received a 6 year contract for a lot of money ? That was the point I was trying to make.I really thought it would be more obvious.

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By: Ian Rothermund http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22871 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:52:21 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22871 Oh wait, I was wrong…would’ve been his freshman year

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By: Ian Rothermund http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22870 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:50:10 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22870 Maybe he’ll never amount to anything. Then again, what was up with him being a consensus top-10 pick going into the draft? I hope all those guys lose their jobs for not even watching the guy’s swing before giving him that much money.

I still saw bat speed, and if an entire organization can’t teach a guy how and where to hold his hands in some respectable amount of time, then he was going to be a flop regardless. I think it will be more relevant to take a look at those mechanics again at the end of next season….if he hasn’t improved, then yes, I’ll agree with you, they may have made a poor selection. However, this year would have been his…sophomore year in college? Looks like he’ll be 20 until August ’13. Another argument I might bring up is that the past year and a half has probably been the only time in his life that he’s focused exclusively on playing and learning baseball. Everyone else in the industry probably didn’t realize that either though..

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By: NorCal Buc http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22861 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:33:50 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22861 zzzzzzzzzz

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By: MichaelVelaTTU http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22857 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:08:37 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22857 Here’s an article playing devil’s advocate to this one: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/kansas-city-royals-gm-dayton-moore-right-move-james-shields-wade-davis-trade-tampa-bay-rays-wil-myers-120912

Also, Royals majorly improved their SP for next year. Their offense should and will not be as bad as they were in 2012. If their core group does that again, there’s a bigger problem on the Royal’s hands than trading away Myers and those two other pitchers for Shields and Davis.

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By: TonyPenaforHOF http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22846 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:05:45 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22846 What does Greinke have to do with my remark?

I replied to the comment he was “surprised” they did so well. My point – his reason for the surprise is due to AJ and Wandy’s performance over the last few years, their ages and trends. Burnett had a much better year and Wandy pitched better in Pittsburgh than he did in Houston.

It is rare players at their ages improve. It is more rare their improvement is lasting for more than one year.

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By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22838 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:16 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22838 @TonyPena : Wandy R. performed over his head last year ? You do realize that Greinke ranked 41st in ERA the past 3 years ? Right there between one Wandy R. and Derek Holland ?

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22833 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:51:02 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22833 NH has come out several times and said that when he starts making moves to save his job, he’s gonna lose it.

So, I don’t see it happening.

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By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22831 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:47:23 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22831 Much like the Fangraph’s Dave Cameron,I think the Royals have mortgaged the future to be mediocre currently. For all of NH ‘s shortcomings,I pray he never makes a deal like this one !

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/first-pitch-what-the-pirates-can-take-away-from-the-royalsrays-deal.html#comment-22830 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:06:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44851#comment-22830 wow…that IS ugly.

Wes Freeman anyone?

Compare their swings.

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