Comments on: Joel Hanrahan Friday Rumors: Pirates Now Looking at Shortstops?

By: IC Bob

IC Bob — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:42:39 +0000

You are making to much sense. Most of the posters would Take a low A SS batting 270 over a Major league SS batting 230 who batted 340 in low A. Heaven forbid if the young SS didn’t immediately bat 300 in the majors. We are in cycle of just turning and burning right now.

By: Kevin Anstrom

Kevin Anstrom — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:22:11 +0000

Great move by the Pirate leadership to sign Liriano.

If the Pirates get a young SS for one-year of Hanrahan that you be great value.

Two years ago Gordon and Iglesias were rated the #2 and #3 shortstops in the minors (behind Manny Machado). That’s higher than Alen Hanson will be rated this year.

If you have a moment …

Compare Jose Iglesias with Omar Visquel at a similar age.
Compare Dee Gordon with Michael Bourn at a similar age.
Also Dee Gordon had injury issues this year (thumb).
Compare Dee Gordon’s year 2 with the second MLB seasons for Pedro Alvarez, Buster Posey, Jason Heyward.

By: Sean Matthews

Sean Matthews — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:55:15 +0000

I can imagine Dee already on second base and Walker with a 1-0 count and Cutch on deck.

By: CityofChamps

CityofChamps — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:48:07 +0000

Very debatable. Gordon hit .304 in 2011. Sure, he’s basically a singles hitter, but his speed could be great for the lineup and his bat has a far higher potential then Barmes’.

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:07:22 +0000

agreed.

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:06:14 +0000

i’ll buy you a beer for making this much sense. very well said.

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:05:18 +0000

sorry, but neither Gordon nor Iglesias should start ahead of Barmes. Your description of Barmes at the plate is accurate but its really obvious that you have never seen Gordon hit. He makes d’Arnaud look like tony gwynn.

At least Iglesias can field. Gordon has shown only speed throughout his minor league career.

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:03:05 +0000

i dont want to be out of line here, but youre dead wrong about Barmes. he was signed to be a defense first SS and he definately brought his glove to the ballpark. the dude is excellent!!!

his bat isnt good but it certainly is better than both Gordon AND Iglesias.

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:01:07 +0000

exactly.

we already have a fast shortstop who cant hit and field, and his brother just got traded to the Mets.

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:00:19 +0000

if we add Gordon we will have one excellent fielder in Barmes and one guy who can run really fast in Gordon.

Gordon isnt even close to being the fielder that Iglesias can be. And his hitting is poor. He has no power at all with just a smattering of XBH throughout his career, and almost all of them due to his speed.