Comments on: Pirates and Red Sox Agree on Hanrahan Deal

By: Bob Smith

Bob Smith — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:33:37 +0000

I went to the over the monster site and from what I reaqd the Boston Fans dont like this deal either. I think we got a comparable player, maybe eventual closer and 2 pieces, one probably is lost next year because he will be out of options, and Sands is a nice bench piece. As long as this isnt a reason to give GFJ away, I think it was as good as we were going to get based on Hanny’s peripherals

By: beatembuccos21

beatembuccos21 — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:46:59 +0000

Hopefully this trade works out. Scott Van Slyke, who the Dodgers just DFA’d, posted a better OPS in 2012 for Albuquerque than Sands did. Sands is one year younger.

By: Todd Smith

Todd Smith — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 06:34:43 +0000

I’m thinking a platoon of Sanchez/Jones at 1B and Snider/Sands in RF. Sands has a .904 OPS against lefties and a .589 OPS against righties. Snider has a .738 OPS against righties and a .667 OPS against lefties.

By: pezN8

pezN8 — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 06:04:13 +0000

I mentioned this on MLBTR:
NH essentially just turned Sean Burnett into 2 yrs of an All Star closer, a 25 yr old bat w/ 20-30 hr potential, a relief prospect who hits 95mph+, a potential closer in Melancon who throws heat, one more unmentioned player, saved $7million & gave it to Liriano.

sooo…a starter, a closer, a bullpen guy, an OF/1B, one other guy, and 2 yrs of all star closer play. For Sean Burnett.

Not. Too. Shabby.

Of course, my opinion goes out the window if the 2nd guy we send is anyone of substance. I’m praying it is Tabata and the 4th guy is Iglesias or a decent prospect.

By: capirate

capirate — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:46:05 +0000

Hard to evaluate this without knowing all the players involved. Definitely not getting a great return for Hanrahan like people hoped a year or two ago. I would rather the Pirates get 2 quality players than 4 question marks.

Sands might be a decent addition. The one thing he is not is a good platoon partner with Sanchez because they are both right handed.

By: pezN8

pezN8 — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:41:43 +0000

I’m liking the OF of Marte, Cutch, Sands (with AP and Snider on bench).
I’m liking the IF of Alvarez, Barmes, Walker, Jones, and Martin.

There is speed: Marte, Cutch, AP
There is defense: Barmes, Martin, Cutch, Marte
There is power: Alvarez, Cutch, Jones, Sands, (maybe Marte, Martin, Walker)

There is KO potential: AJ, JMc, Liriano
There are inning eaters: Wandy, AJ
There is upside: JMc, Liriano, Locke, McPherson, Wilson, Irwin, Oliver
There is depth: Morton, Locke, McPherson, Irwin, Wilson, Mazzero, Oliver, Stewart
There is a bullpen: Grilli, Morris, Wilson, Black, Hughes, Watson

By: pezN8

pezN8 — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:34:01 +0000

Getting kinda nervous as to whom the 2nd player is that we dealt.

I wonder if the trade is Hanny for Sands & Pimental, but the Pirates have the option to include Jones and get Melancon and another minor leaguer (Brentz, Ranaudo, Swihart, Marrero, etc.) as well.

By: Todd Smith

Todd Smith — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:15:05 +0000

Sands seems like the Josh Reddick type breakout candidate that I thought everybody was looking for. In 184 games at AAA, Reddick had a .748 OPS with 32 HR. In 213 games at AAA, Sands had a .914 OPS with 55 HR. Reddick was Boston’s #7 prospect in 2010. Sands was LA’s #6 prospect in 2011. No guarantees that Sands will figure things out the way Reddick did, but this seems like the right kind of deal.

Melancon coming back helps too. He had some success in the NL Central his 2 years with Houston and has some experience closing.

By: pirateswfc

pirateswfc — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:07:49 +0000

Hanrahan really didn’t have much value at this point and should have been traded last offseason. That being said, I can only sign off on this trade if the salary savings is put into other players. With the increase in TV money there is no excuse for payroll to not be $80 million in 2013.

By: meatygettingsaucy

meatygettingsaucy — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 04:31:15 +0000

Hanrahan isn’t worth $7 million and should not account for 1/10 of the entire teams budget. If he was a starting pitcher, you can make an argument, not as a relief pitcher who throws one inning a night. Plus, with diminishing speed on his fastball, a rising BB:9, an increased homerun rate, and practically every save being of the heart attack variety this past year, I think the Bucs can find someone just as capable, if only a little less well-known.