Comments on: Pirates Aiming High With Garrett Jones Trade Talks http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Fri, 18 Apr 2014 05:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: lawdog http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22652 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:04:33 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22652 I agree with Bryan Graham, why the heck would we even be considering trading Jones? Even after arbitration, he will only make 4.5 million. That is a bargain by today’s standards. They have no power hitters in the system to make up for his production. Therefore, I do not blame the Pirates for asking the moon for him. Maybe statistically the proposed trade is one sided as this article shows, but too bad for Seattle or any other team wanting one of our best players. Just because a player has a 5 million trade value, does not mean you automatically get someone with equal value in return. The fact that Jones is one of our best hitters and there is no one to replace his production on our team would make me value him much higher than some statistical formula says. There are still intangibles in value in baseball.

I stated before in another article, on this team, Walker, Alvarez, Cutch and Jones are our only consistent hitters. Outside one of their outfield prospects (most likely Marte) blossoming, they have no one to replace these players’ production. If another team wants any of them, than their best prospect or another established power hitter or top of the line starter would be the only acceptable trade value for me. If another team doesn’t like it, then you do not trade them.

As Michael Keaton said, “someday you have to write the check”.

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By: kimbercarry http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22641 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:51:22 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22641 I’d take that deal

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By: kimbercarry http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22638 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:40:45 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22638 Bottom line is the Pirates don’t want to pay him.

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By: Dinco00 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22634 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:40:24 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22634 How about a three way trade… Rays get Jones, Snyder, and Butler. Royals get shields, McDonald, and Hanrahan. Pirates get will Myers and hellickson. The rays are looking for bats and the royals are looking for pitching. The pirates will get a young corner outfielder.

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By: Bryan Graham http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22633 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:40:55 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22633 Why on god’s green earth are we trying to trade Jones? In case the Pirates forgot, their offense is putrid. We signed Martin to a huge deal to guarantee that our 7-8-9 hitters are sure outs again and our 1-2 hitters are from from sure things but we want to trade one of the very few productive pieces we have with nothing to replace his production. All we are left with is hope that another teams reject (Gaby Sanchez) can return to his first half form from 2 years ago. I find it quite comical how so many on this site actually believe the Pirates can contend. It’s going to take Cy Young type effectiveness from the starters for a whole season and the bullpen needs to be at the top of the league again for a full season with new pieces. Lets not forget, the best pitcher the Pirates had for the second half of the season was Correia and he is gone. Correia being the best pitcher in the second half of the season doesn’t give me much hope for the starters pitching to the level they need to considering the offense could very well be worse than last year. I’m sorry, but I see this team as a group more likely to lose 100+ than to contend or even finish .500. I pray I am wrong and they can play completely over their heads for a whole season, but I just don’t see it.

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By: swartnp7 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22632 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 05:23:11 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22632 Where would our left handed power come from? Or any power other than Cutch? Seager is nice, but Pedro is almost 40hr nice.

Would love to get either Hultzen or Franklin. A rotation of Hultzen, Cole, Taillon, JMac, and McPherson/Locke/Wilson/Heredia would be just sick.

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By: Kevin Anstrom http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22631 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 03:02:33 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22631 Here is my trade proposal

Pirates get
Seager, Hultzen, and Brian Moran

Mariners get
Jones, Hanrahan, and Alvarez + cash

The Pirates would get two leftys nearly major league ready and a solid 3B. The Mariners would get some serious LH power and a closer.

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By: swartnp7 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22630 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:48:04 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22630 I’m hoping that maybe NH is aiming high in asking for Walker in hopes of Seattle settling w/ Franklin or Paxton. It’d be awesome to snag Franklin for SS (and I’d love to get Smoak, think he’s a change of scenery guy). Trade Hanny and Jones plus prospect, for Franklin, Smoak, Noesi, and Jaso.
Then send Tabata/Pressley and Fort to FLA for Nolasco and his contract. The Hanny and Jones contracts are about $11-12 mill, same as Nolasco’s. it also would let them get away from Tabatas deal.
Also wish they’d take a shot at Liriano.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22623 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:14:17 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22623 All GM’s know what a player is worth, not like the old days, you can’t pull the wool over someones eyes, now the only thing a GM has going for him is how bad the other GM wants to make a move, if he needs a part to get him over the top or save his job he might mortgage the future a little bit, never hurts to ask, the guy might come back and say what he wants in return.
At the very least any team looking for power knows now that Jones is available.

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By: whiteAngus http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/pirates-aiming-high-with-garrett-jones-trade-talks.html#comment-22620 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:18:06 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=44640#comment-22620 i believe CRobinson can handle at least a platoon situation in The Show. NH is doing the right thing by aiming high on a deal with Jones, mainly because thats his job. Also, I believe Jones to be more like his 2010-2011 performances.

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