Comments on: Scott Boras Comments on Mark Appel and the Pirates

By: Lee Young

Lee Young — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:55:18 +0000

Different rules, sure, but my point was more towards the ‘cajones’ part.

And don’t worry, we’ll have enough money to sign all of the picks we need to sign.

9 and 14 won’t cost that much. Last year was a total of $4.6 mil. That leaves $4.2 for the rest of the draft.

We spent a little over $2 mil, I think after 1st round.

Foo

By: wkkortas

wkkortas — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:19:42 +0000

Plus Bell signed under different draft rules, which is clearly comparing apples and oranges.

By: wkkortas

wkkortas — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:18:33 +0000

I’d say the Pirates would be better off with Dahl and Barnes in the system than Barnes and a draft pick–and keep in mind, the Pirates draft pool is 8.8 million dollars, and they have to shoe-horn two first round picks into that. In my book, that constitutes a clear whiff.

By: Rebel

Rebel — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:56:59 +0000

I love that!! Venom to make a black widow jealous!!
No venom Lee, I love the Bucs like everyone here. And let’s be honest and admit Neil has made improvements. It’s better today than when Littlefield was here. But seems every step the pirates take forward comes with more steps back. The trades are poor and some of the drafts are confusing. But through it all cole, heredia ect have been added. Im frustrated like many others. Tired of us being the laughing stock of baseball. Hokey hey and not signing a 1 st rounder. How many teams didn’t sign their first rounder this past draft? Why is it always us? Maybe venom but its more frustrating because I love the pirates like all if you.

By: Lee Young

Lee Young — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:02:32 +0000

Everyone said we didn’t have a prayer to sign Bell. We signed him. We had the cajones to draft him. Calculated risk, imho.

Apparently the risk was greater than Dave Dahl, who, according to some of yinz is the next great thing. Right now, he is hitting for average and has a good arm, but he projects as a corner OFer without corner OFer power.

And, they ain’t whiffed yet. They still get that extra pick this year.

Sheesh.

Foo

By: Lee Young

Lee Young — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:57:53 +0000

Rebel….perhaps you need to start rooting for another team. Your venom would make a black widow jealous.

Not buying any of your drivel. Sorry.

By: wkkortas

wkkortas — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:40:24 +0000

I’ll say now what I said at the time. One of the good things about NH is that the man has the stones of a cat-burglar; he’s not afraid to do things that aren’t popular. Still, seven teams had the opportunity to draft Appel, and seven teams decide he was too tough a sign. If you take the risk to draft Appe, you’ve got to be pretty confident you can sign him. The Pirates are going to live and die by draft and development, and they can’t afford to do things like whiff on their first-round picks.

By: Rebel

Rebel — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:03:03 +0000

You’re exactly right Lee. Take a shot at Appel every time. Not one person would argue that. However, in the draft you do you homework on signability with players that are first round type talent. They visited Pedro, Cole, and Bell. They didn’t have any meeting nor did they call Appel before selecting him. These are facts not assumptions Tim. Take down the picture of Neil by your bedside Tim and go investigate. Ask some tough questions and be the reporter you claim to be. Had they done the work on Appel as they did Dahl we’d have the hitter we need. 7 teams passed on a player who they knew couldn’t sign him. Our best front office in baseball should have know this. And when Appel sent his twitter message after being selected it was over before it started. The best front office in baseball dropped the ball again. Hokey hey lets get ready for 21 in a row, because after this best front office in baseball trades the best power hitter and closer we have, like them or not they produce, where most teams trade to get better we seem to get worse.

By: Lee Young

Lee Young — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:35:54 +0000

low “FIRST” round pick.

By: Lee Young

Lee Young — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:35:30 +0000

Getting Barnes was like having a low round pick.

He and Mathieson are looking good so far, but time will tell.

Foo