Comments on: Seattle Interested in Garrett Jones

By: elgaupo

elgaupo — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:23:22 +0000

This is Dave Cameron’s article which pretty much somes up why I’d be in favor of this:

http://www.ussmariner.com/2012/12/02/garrett-jones-john-jaso/

By: emjayinTN

emjayinTN — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:29:49 +0000

j: I agree 100% with you that the names trotted out there by Seattle are not worth the effort. Nick Franklin would be a great sign because he will probably see Seattle late 2013. We have to have either he or Brad Miller. If we give Jones and Hanrahan I would have to have Franklin/Miller and RHP Carter Capps.

By: Steve Dimmick

Steve Dimmick — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:47:15 +0000

lets face it, JONES had a great year, i suspect a down year and not a great return. Rumor has it Baltimore is interested…maybe Jonathan Schoop or is he too much? Could play SS

By: lawdog

lawdog — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:26:46 +0000

Yes, sorry, outraged was a poor choice of words. lol

By: lawdog

lawdog — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:25:19 +0000

I agree, this deal would make no sense at all. Its OK to buy low and sell high, but the players floated by Seattle for Jones and Hanrahan is not selling high. Its more like selling low buying low. If the Pirates are even considering this, I would be very upset. Its a naked salary dump.

By: Tim Williams

Tim Williams — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:24:52 +0000

I said:

“If the Pirates could get Smoak in a deal with Seattle, that could potentially be huge.”

Immediately after that I said:

“The other two pieces in this rumor don’t make much sense. Jaso doesn’t provide a ton of value replacing McKenry as Martin’s backup. He would also cost more, as he’s arbitration eligible. Noesi would just add depth, rather than filling a need in the rotation. Even with Smoak, who has lost value with his struggles the last few years, that’s not the type of return you’d want to see for Jones AND Hanrahan.”

I don’t get outraged over anything in life, much less a baseball rumor. But I think it’s clear from the above that I don’t think the rumored deal would make sense for the Pirates.

By: lawdog

lawdog — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:19:41 +0000

I do not get Mr.Williams saying that getting Smoak would be “huge”. Uh, if it was for nothing, maybe. Aren’t we a little far along for a rebuilding deal? Jones is one of our best and most consistent hitters and he is in his prime. He makes 4.5 million next year, which is a very good deal in today’s game. So we would trade him for a prospect? Smoak’s numbers don’t seem all that good to me. I do not not see upside either, I see Andy LaRouche busted prospect numbers. We already took on a Seattle project with Snider, we do not need another one. The other two, a backup catcher and cannon fodder replacement arm.

I am always alarmed when the Pirates float these stories to prepare the fanbase. For Mr. Williams to be anything but outraged over this rumor is a little weird. It sounds and smells like a possible salary dump. I wouldn’t trade Jones or Hanaran for all three by themselves, not alone together.

By: leadoff

leadoff — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:17:27 +0000

I think the signing of Martin tells us that the Pirates plan to content this year, if they were not planing on contending they probably would have gone with the Fort and Sanchez.
As far as Hanrahan is concerned he has no trade value unless the Pirates pick up salary. Hanrahans 7mil salary overrides any player return the Pirates could get, if they move Hanrahan it would be a payroll dump IMO.
As far as Jones is concerned other teams have made runs at him in the past, the Yankees wanted him badly and could not get the Pirates to trade him, so I would think if Jones goes it will be for a player that can fill a hole that they have now, not in the future.

By: wkkortas

wkkortas — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:51:40 +0000

I’ve never understood Smoak’s ballyhooed prospect status. He’s never been successful anywhere. He’s had almost 1500 PAs in the bigs, and hasn’t shown he can do anything particularly well. He’s never even hit in the PCL, for chrissakes. I can’t see where he has any value to the Pirates.

By: jalcorn

jalcorn — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:21:35 +0000

That rumor makes zero sense. Sounds like something that someone in Seattle dreamed up. The Martin move indicates NH’s intention to win now and dealing Jones and Hanny for a huge question mark at 1B and two players that we don’t need would be ridiculous. I don’t buy it for a second. Now if Nick Franklin is involved, to borrow from Dr. Crane – I’m Listening.