Comments on: Winter League Recap: Two More Hits For DeJesus http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Mon, 08 Sep 2014 05:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Wilfredo Lopez http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23500 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:26:34 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23500 i respect your opinion im just defending the great season de jesus is having, but the example of benji gonzalez is also wrong, benji is a bench player for the leones de ponce, the last place team, he has been playing lately beacuse their regular ss leaved the team and was an import and as they already are eliminated they are using bench and non regular players, but benji is not a regular in the league and he will never be a mlb player. but de jesus is playing for a playoff contender team, bats first in the lineup and its the league leader in avg. secong in doubles, top 5 in sb and a great glove. this guy is a pro level player, and was a second round pick of the dodgers, he hits .298 asa triple aaa player for his carrer. i dont like mercer over him in the majors, he has no bat is not the fastest player, he is a good fielder and even you think puertorrican baseball is AA de jesus is a better player than mercer. jody had the chance to overtake barmes when he was hitting .200 and he failed and i dont see him hitting mlb pitching. de jesus can earn a utility role with the pirates.

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23499 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:40:53 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23499 Apparently I can’t win with these rankings, you think I’m being harsh although you did misquote my ranking(AA All-Star and AA/AAA are both higher than just saying AA). Down below someone thinks I’m being too generous, so with that in mind, I like where I’m at.
Based on every player in the PR, I see a ton of non-major league names with a handful of major league players as you have named. For example with the Pirates, Benji Gonzalez plays everyday, he is a mediocre high-A player. Mix that with DeJesus being one of the better players in the league and that is where I got my ranking.
I didn’t just throw those rankings out there, I checked every roster in all three leagues before answering, although the Dominican ranking was done for someone who had previously asked about Kris Johnson.
There are definitely better players playing in the DR, no question. Venezuela and PR are about the same, though I saw more major league quality in the Venezuelan League so I rank it a little higher.
Wasn’t meant as any disrespect, just an honest ranking based on the current level of players there.

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By: Wilfredo Lopez http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23497 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:26:09 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23497 i dont agree with you, the caribbean series who the champs play each other, dr, pr, mexico and venezuela all beat each other in competition, and in the 2 baseball classics puerto rico have finished better than dominican republic. also this year players like yadier molina, mike aviles, yasiel puig, jonathan sanchez, jc romero, is a AA league???? are u kidding. dont underrate ivan de jesus numbers, this kid is a 2nd round pick, and if it wasnt for his brutal injury he should have been a regular mlb player. imo he is better than mercer and i would like to have him and harrison as utilities. the kid is hitting .363 dont undervalue him

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23495 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:56:39 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23495 The problem with quoting a top ten is most of the better players aren’t there all year, so they won’t qualify for batting titles, Marte being the perfect example.
As far as the competition level and it being meaningless, I strongly disagree. These games being played are their major league games in these countries. The games are events each and every night. They are nothing like the crowds at minor league games at any level.
Comparing it to Spring Training games isn’t a good comp, most ST games go to minor leaguers after 4-5 innings, while the atmosphere is laid back. Night and day difference. Guys who don’t go to the Winter Leagues to play hard, get sent home. In the Dominican, they even have minor league games going on.

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By: jalcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23494 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:50:47 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23494 Your top 10 hitters in the DWL

Hector Luna Phillies 32 3B
Mauro Gomez Red Sox 27 1B
Nelson Perez Cubs 24 OF
Jordany Valdespin Mets 24 2B
Ricardo Nanita Blue Jays 31 OF
Donell Linares MEX 28 3B
Oscar Taveras Cardinals 20 OF
Miguel Tejada Orioles 38 SS
Todd Linden Giants 32 OF
Moises Sierra Blue Jays 23 OF

Top 10 SP
Kyler Newby Orioles 27
Samuel Deduno Twins 28
Jose De Paula Padres 22
Fabio Castro Athletics 27
Danny Salazar Indians 22
Esmil Rogers Indians 26
Josh Outman Rockies 27
Aneury Rodriguez Astros 24
Randall Delgado Braves 22
Stolmy Pimentel Red Sox 22

Not even close to MLB ST talent, let alone regular season MLB. Its not even AAA quality.

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By: jalcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23493 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:42:02 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23493 Come on John, this isn’t close to even Spring Training level competition. They are facing guys that haven’t even played stateside in some cases. In others its wash outs and has beens. The starting pitching is terrible in winter ball. This is as meaningless as can be, its not small sample size against MLB competition like your examples.

I appreciate your effort, but there is nothing useful here.

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23490 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:27:05 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23490 The only reason right now I don’t think he has the inside track is because the others are on the 40 man roster, while he isn’t. Also, Mercer is the best defensive shortstop and I could see that being a selling point with Hurdle.
It may come down to who they think has a brighter future. I would expect Alvarez/Walker/Barmes to be in the lineup all the time, so if they think Mercer is the best player of the reserve group, then he may go to AAA to play shortstop everyday.
For now, I’m sticking with the frontrunners being Mercer due to SS defense and Harrison due to experience/versatility.

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By: jg941 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23489 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:18:03 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23489 And remember that the other guys have either 2 options (D’Arnaud, Mercer) or 3 (Harrison) remaining. Time for those boys to step up or be sent down.

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By: jg941 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23488 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:13:50 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23488 I’m in the minority that thinks that DeJesus has an outside shot at making the team out of ST.

Seems like he can play all three positions, which might buy the Bucs a little roster flexibility. I honestly don’t think they got him from the Sox for AAA depth – they have enough Quad-A middle infielders already.

Remember, GM’s gonna lean towards making the Hanny trade look good, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see IDeJ sneak in there with a good ST.

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-league-recap-two-more-hits-for-dejesus.html#comment-23486 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:18:32 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45353#comment-23486 Not exactly sure who you mean by that? Technically guys like d’Arnaud and Mercer are the younger guys. Anyone else younger than them in the minors isn’t going anywhere because they haven’t reached minor league free agency, and some don’t need to be on the 40 man roster yet due to limited years in the minors. The only young infielder they have lost anytime recently was Elevys Gonzalez in the minor league portion of the Rule V draft and he was well down the depth chart and far from the majors.
Actual infield prospects like Alen Hanson and Gift Ngoepe don’t need to be on the 40 man roster, they are protected in the Pirates system.
No one of note has been lost by keeping Mercer and d’Arnaud on the 40 man and if someone better came around, it is a very easy process to remove them to make room. In a perfect world, whenever you acquire someone to help, you drop the 40th best player to make room for them.
Doesn’t always happen due to depth at that position, but after the way d’Arnaud played last year and the players now in the system at the same positions, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was off the 40 man before Opening Day.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if he bounced back this year and competed for that 25th roster spot. He had some injury issues early on in 2012 and really struggled through them

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