Comments on: Winter Leagues Recap: DeJesus Wins The Batting Crown http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 24 May 2014 14:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: burghdood http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23590 Fri, 04 Jan 2013 04:55:16 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23590 I’d trade his apparent bat speed, growing power, reflexes & range for the steady, yet boringly semi-adequate hitting of Barmes by ’14…ever notice how other teams speed guys into the majors without looking back(see Wash.Natls.),vs. Bucco philosophy of being “certain they are ready”. I think they’re way too cognizant of Years Of Control to put out a winner; not nearly into the Now! I see their logic, but other teams say Damn the Torpedoes & forge ahead-with good success!

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23589 Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:40:17 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23589 More on Hanson. With his range and quickness, I think it could make up for an average arm. I personally think he could stick there, most are unsure. I think Omar Vizquel proved for years that great range, sure hands and quick footwork can make-up for an average arm. I’m not comparing Hanson to one of the greatest fielders ever, but his range certainly is on par with anyone. I’d do what I could to keep him at SS, meaning Bradenton 2013, Altoona 2014, Indy 2015, Pittsburgh 2016 and get him 135 starts a year there.
Next year in Winter ball, he should see more playing time. The Dominican is a higher level of play than the other Winter Leagues, so it is tough for any low-A ballplayer to get extensive playing time

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23588 Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:35:37 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23588 The reason I said RF is because of his lack of outfield playing time and the fact LF in PNC is huge. I expect Marte/McCutchen to cover the LF/CF area for the next 5 years(you would hope), while if Hanson moves to the outfield, it won’t happen too soon. He will be very inexperienced out there, making RF easier for him to adjust to for half of his games.
I think his position will be dictated by how fast his bat moves him through the minors. If they go on the three year plan with him, I could see him being groomed to replace Walker or Alvarez, or perhaps he does stay at SS. I saw him play five times last year and watched three intense infield practices, I didn’t think his arm was that bad and his range is well-above average. He got to some balls that looked like sure hits off the bat to me.

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By: burghdood http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23574 Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:06:32 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23574 Well, I hope they don’t rush him if his “tool pack” doesn’t project as a totally natural SS (mainly due to a slightly weak arm?)-2 1/2 yrs of reps in the infield & a thousand at bats should be enough to develop what he has, & it’s time to startto think what we’ll have in the Cole/Tallion era. If it’s an arm problem that keeps him off SS, wouldn,t LF be a better option than RF?

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23571 Thu, 03 Jan 2013 03:33:05 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23571 Alen Hanson will spend this entire 2013 season at Bradenton. He may get a late call-up just to taste AA, possibly if Altoona is in the playoffs, or he may stay in Bradenton if they’re going to the playoffs instead.
Assuming everything goes right with him, the absolute earliest you would see him in the Burgh is September 2014 as a call-up. That is a big assumption at his age and what he has done so far but let’s go with it for now.
From there he would start 2015 in AAA and be called up just in time to avoid super-two status in arbitration, meaning July sometime.
So if everything goes right, he will be the Pirates starting shortstop by July of 2015. That is your best case scenario with him.
The is an equally good chance he doesn’t make it as a shortstop and he isn’t a regular until 2016 at a different position, 2B/3B/RF among the options.
Then, like any player with no success above low-A, there are worse options you don’t want to think about now

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By: burghdood http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23570 Thu, 03 Jan 2013 02:48:32 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23570 How far away is Hansen? Seems like a great backup plan if De J falls thru after Barmes plays out the year…buccos could try DJ for part of ’14, & hope Hansen is ready mid 14, or is that too soon for H?

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By: elgaupo http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23569 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:47:08 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23569 We’re compiling lots of players that have a low percentage yet real chance at being an everyday ML SS (Harrison, Mercer, D’Arnaud, DeJesus). One of these days one is going to stick…

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23561 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 15:59:17 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23561 From what I have heard, he was a serviceable SS until the leg injury, but since then, he has lost a step and his range now makes him more of a liability there. He doesn’t quite have the bat to make up for average at best defense now.
One thing with DeJesus, he was always known as a patient hitter and that was part of the charm with him, especially when he was considered a shortstop. The walk rate has really gone down since the leg break, not sure how the two would be connected but that just seems like the team his rate took a tumble. It has been real bad in 2 of the last 3 years, hasn’t been good in his brief major league trial and was just average in the Winter League, despite being one of the best hitters and batting leadoff.
I think a good comp for his upside is Freddy Sanchez(not 2006 Sanchez) a .290 hitter, won’t walk, won’t steal much, doubles power, solid defense at 2b and just like Sanchez, he could play SS, but not full-time. His floor is similar to what Josh Harrison did this year(though they aren’t good comps for each other skill-wise)

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23559 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 12:50:19 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23559 John: DeJesus has hit well at every level, and was the Shortstop of the future for the Dodgers until breaking his Tibia in ST 2009 and missing the whole year. The Dodgers went with Gordon and then in 2010, when DeJ returned, they began grooming him as a 2B. I hope the Pirates see him as a Shortstop and play him as such in ST and probably full time at SS in AAA Indy. If it works, he may be a possible replacement for Clint Barmes later this year.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/12/winter-leagues-recap-dejesus-wins-the-batting-crown.html#comment-23555 Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:26:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=45379#comment-23555 Let’s hope he can carry this over to the MLB.

I doubt it, but we can hope.

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