Comments on: Injury Delays Liriano Deal

By: michaelbro8

michaelbro8 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:45:01 +0000

Anyone hear what the actual injury was ? All I’ve heard is that it’s “significant”

By: Brian

Brian — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:55:39 +0000

I think Hurdle is too traditionalist to bat Walker at the 1-2 spot. If Marte can show discipline and get on base for Cutch, I’ d forget Bourn was ever a free agent.

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:38:23 +0000

very nice!

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:37:04 +0000

i dont think its good enough a reason, the fans being pissy about 20 years, to lose one of the top picks in the draft by bringing in an OF that this team really doesnt need. sure, having a leadoff hitter would be nice, but i think someone like Walker could do an okay job at that. any money should go to pitching help, IMHO

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:16:05 +0000

I would forfeit it because the Pirates already have the 9th pick protected for failing to sign Appel. I would risk signing Bound to a 2 year/ $15 mil deal and bring another established hitter and fielder into our lineup.

Face it. The lineup needs someone who can get on consistently. Fans are tired of hearing we have 20 straight losing seasons. Now’ s the time to attack.

By: wkkortas

wkkortas — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:30:19 +0000

For a week I kept referring to him as “Nelson Liriano” who, apparently, is the one who will actually end up having been the one somewhat useful to the club at one time or another.

By: wildarschase

wildarschase — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:18:53 +0000

“Because both Lohse and Bourn rejected qualifying offers earlier this offseason, any team that signs them will be forced to give up a draft pick.” http://bit.ly/U47FtG (Bleacher Report)

That takes Bourn out of the running (in more ways than one). That, and would you really want to take time away from Sands, who was a key piece of the Hanrahan deal? Putting on the bench wouldn’t make sense, and you’re not benching Marte…. that, and you might as well see what you have in Snider, since he cost a quality arm in Lincoln.

By: wildarschase

wildarschase — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:13:58 +0000

Lee, if I remember correctly, Bourn would require forfeiting a draft pick. I think that runs counter to what teams like the Pirates are trying to do….I doubt they’d sign Marcum/Saunders, because it’s not their typical bounce-back candidate. Lohse has a draft pick attached, too. So… Jeff K it is- for more money than we could’ve had him for months ago!

Starting rookie pitchers worked for Oakland because they had amazing rookie pitchers.

By: whiteAngus

whiteAngus — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 12:24:40 +0000

i think Lhose is definately off the table. he would cost the pirates their #1 pick in the draft by signing him. and, of course, that pick would go to the Cardinals. double whammy.

By: jg941

jg941 — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:49:17 +0000

I honestly don’t think this team can justify having three CFs, one of whom is probably looking to make $15 mil/yr for multiple years.

Granted, he had a 6+ WAR last year, but so much of that is driven by his insane defensive scores (highest in MLB).

I’m not downplaying that, but defense isn’t really our issue, and that price doesn’t really make sense for a great defensive center fielder who can steal 40 bases a year with an OPS in the low .700s, when we already have one of those on the doorstep with Marte, and at minimum wage. (And maybe with a OPS in the low .800s)(maybe)

If Liriano unravels, then the best remaining realistic pitching option for the Bucs is probably Capuano – better 2012 #s (and better 2013 projections FWIW) than most of the alternatives suggested in a various places – Saunders, Floyd, Porcello, even Lhose. And at $6 mil/yr for 2 yrs. Any trade chips left that the Dodgers would want?