Comments on: What Would Justin Upton Cost the Pirates?

By: meatygettingsaucy

meatygettingsaucy — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:15:00 +0000

Agreed. Though, with any player, this needs to be taken into account when trading for someone. Is Player A who you are trading for with 3 years of control worth more than three players who may be average to above average ML players who, combined, have 18 years of control?

By: jg941

jg941 — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:24:33 +0000

I’d agree on Upton or Andrus, but Stanton is the guy you consider a package with Taillon for.

By: genealley

genealley — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:12:59 +0000

First post and I choked and submitted before completion. Was going to add that Snyder and maybe even Sands or Robinson could surprise. Also, trading several good prospects at this point is what the Royals just did by trading several top prospects prematurely in an apparent effort by the GM to save his job. Credit to NH for not following this same course.

By: genealley

genealley — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:07:09 +0000

The Pirates are not quite ready to be trading a package of top tier prospects for Upton, Stanton or Andrus. This kind of trade shoul not happen until we are legitimate contenders and maybe need one key piece to go to the next level. A trade like this might make sense next winter if the system continues to make progress and they get strong seasons from all or nearly all of Cole, Taillon, Marte, Hanson, Polanco, Bell and others in the top 20, and maybe a breakout from Snyder (

By: AdreBox

AdreBox — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:18:42 +0000

Upton would cost too much. Based on the last two seasons, Unless a trade involved AZ paying a portion of his salary, he’s not worth it. I wouldn’t trade Marte anyway,because I’d want an outfield of Cutch, Upton and Marte.

By: meatygettingsaucy

meatygettingsaucy — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 06:51:14 +0000

Justin Upton, not worth the price. Continue to develop internal options or trade excess for players.

By: keithconto

keithconto — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:24:49 +0000

Because when talking about the Pirates and trading for good players, all you have is pipe dreams.

By: IC Bob

IC Bob — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:30:18 +0000

Who cares what it would cost. If it cost Morris by himself the Pirates wouldn’t make the deal. Why concern ourselves with pipe dreams.

By: NastyNate82

NastyNate82 — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:19:35 +0000

You’re only looking at one side of the equation here. So what proof is there that Marte is going to blast Upton out of the water in terms of value? Cause I don’t see it…he’s a premier defender who will be in LF. But with his lack of patience, there is a very real possibility he can get exploited at the big league level.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Marte a lot.; he’ll provide value even if he doesn’t hit much (I think he’ll be closer to Carlos Gomez in terms of what he offers: defense, speed, and some power). But its pretty cavalier to say that he’ll put up seasons like Upton has or better.

By: swartnp7

swartnp7 — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 05:08:26 +0000

If Upton gets traded, does the no trade clause remain intact? Or does it dissolve when he gets traded?

The reason I ask is…

if his no trade dissolves, I’d trade for him (a package less than what Seattle offered) and then flip him to Seattle for Walker, Franklin, Pryor, Farbush or Carlos Triunfel, and Joseph Decarlo.

Walker would be a slight upgrade over Taillon, we get a SS in Franklin, and a 3B prospect in Decarlo (which would be nice because we have NO ONE after Pedro).
Hopefully we could trade from an area of strength (pitching and OF) for a couple of need (SS and 3B).