Comments on: First Pitch: Murphy’s Law and James McDonald in the Rotation http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: AlvarezRiverBall http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24778 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:14:43 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24778 I’m not sure where you get your numbers but in 17 games and 100 innings over the first half he had 14 innings over 20 pitches. 2 over 30. 6 games had more than 1 inning over 20. 2 games with 3 innings over 20. These stats don’t prove he was tired or worn out from averaging too many pitches per inning.

Again, his problem in the second half was he could not locate his fastball hence putting himself into too many hitter favorable counts which developed lack of confidence in his pitches and confidence to make a good pitch when he needed it. In the first half when he put himself into hitter favorable counts he had confidence to make the pitches and he did make those pitches.

I’ll have to agree with the look the pirates gave you.

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By: Nuke Laloosh http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24763 Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:14:34 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24763 Don’t try to strike everyone out! Over throwing the baseball is a hurdle many young pitchers must get over. He tends to try to over throw at times instead of getting outs. You are correct leadoff and he had problems with that last year.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24717 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:54:01 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24717 What separates ace pitchers from also rans is how they handle pitching when they have nothing, that is where the 90% mental really comes to light IMO.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24716 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:48:10 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24716 I did not say he averaged 95, he was hitting 95 often early in the year with control, but as the year went along he started hitting 95 with less control and less often.
When I say pitches/inning, I am not referring to average pitches/inning, what I am referring to is bad innings, this is the problem with stats, it shows that he throws 15.8 pitches per inning and that is all you get out of it, average rolls in the 30 pitch inning and 10 pitch inning, the 30 pitch inning is the killer, those innings show up later in the year.
The mental side of it comes into play when he can’t throw a bail out 95 mile fast ball and he has to rely on pitches that he can’t get over the plate. As I said he needs to become craftier and wiser and learn to pitch at slower speeds.

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By: AlvarezRiverBall http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24715 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:17:23 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24715 In the first half he averaged 15.8 pitches per inning. That’s comparable to Jordan Zimmerman, Madison Bumgarner, Gio Gonzalez, Johnny Cueto and Mat Latos. He ended up averaging 16.4 pitches an inning. He never averaged 95mph over a course of a game.

First half – 100 IP 31BB 76 H
Second half – 61 IP 38BB 71 H

In the 2nd half he couldn’t locate his pitches meaning he got behind in more counts and had hitters in more fastball counts. When you need to throw a strike you don’t throw it as hard and when you lack confidence in your pitch you don’t throw it as hard either. His poor production led to a lack of confidence as the article points out. It wasn’t an overworked scenario like you make it to be.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24714 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:18:47 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24714 Nuke: Bull Durham – The best baseball movie ever, especially regarding developing a pitcher, and getting into his head. Was it Crash who told Nuke “Don’t think, it can only hurt the team” or something like that. Most baseball fans would not believe how true that movie was – a classic look inside baseball.

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By: Nuke Laloosh http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24712 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:06:22 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24712 “Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical” Yogi Berra
This especially applies to JM! If he ever breaks thru that “mental wall” he could be amazing. However, for every pitcher that breaks thru there are 99 they never will.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24710 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:52:42 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24710 IMO, the stats lie, I believe McDonald had a bad first half that led to the bad second half. I talked to the Pirates about this once and they did not have a clue what I was talking about.
Why the bad first half?
1. McDonald needs far to many pitches to get out of an inning thus wearing him down, he was throwing 95 first half of the year, 90-91 second half.
2. The stat that the Pirates should use is the pitches/inning that McDonald throws
3. It was celebrated when he went 7 or 8 innings, but the facts are when he went 7 or 8 innings he was doing it with an extreme amount of effort, much more than he should have been doing it with. Far too often he would get 2 easy outs and then struggle mightly to get that 3rd out.
Having said this, McDonald has at least a 3 talent level IMO and as he ages he may become craftier and more efficient pitcher, I would in no means give up on him after last year, I just would not put much credence into last years stats. As A.J. Burnett put it, with McDonald it is all in his head.

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By: Uyerta36a7x http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24709 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:24:06 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24709 I can’t blame Pirates fans for expecting the worst, but it annoys me when they make ridiculous claims. “The bucs wont win 50 games this year…” “Alvarez is the worst player in baseball…” etc. Atleast make it believable when you bash your hometown team.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/02/first-pitch-murphys-law-and-james-mcdonald-in-the-rotation.html#comment-24708 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:55:14 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=46748#comment-24708 Tim: Well stated and right on target. JMAC in little more than 2 years has started 71 games for the Pirates and has a 25-22 record. He came from the Dodgers as a guy they had relegated to the bullpen and were not going to give him another chance as a SP. 30 starts each of the last 2 years. He will pitch 2013 as a 28 year old and he should just be hitting his stride as a SP. BTW, he came in a trade for O Dotel, who the Pirates picked up as their Closer for next to nothing, and he proceeded to Save 23 games before the trade. A great trade scenario of buying low, and capitalizing on a positive effort at just the right time.

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