Comments on: Draft Prospect Watch: Moran Finally Homers, Then Does It Again http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/draft-prospect-watch-moran-finally-homers-then-does-it-again.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Thu, 13 Nov 2014 00:35:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/draft-prospect-watch-moran-finally-homers-then-does-it-again.html#comment-25180 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:04:50 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=47670#comment-25180 I wouldn’t reach to take a college player over a better HS kid, but in this draft, I don’t think you have to worry about that. You figure Appel, Stanek, Manaea, Gray, Wahl and Gonzales are six guys right there. Moran and Bryant will go high. On the HS side, Austin Meadows will be picked well before the Pirates get a chance. I think five other HS players could go in those first 14 picks, maybe six. That should leave a strong college pitcher left over when the Pirates pick the second time. At pick #9 Gray might be a huge upside pitcher to take.
Stewart has dropped one spot on BA’s list since the start of the season and he hasn’t played yet due to a shoulder injury. Right now, he looks like he will be picked around 20 or so and will be a very tough sign

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By: NastyNate82 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/draft-prospect-watch-moran-finally-homers-then-does-it-again.html#comment-25178 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:50:07 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=47670#comment-25178 In regards to the HS pitchers, it didn’t look like there is anyone close to Fried/Giolito quality. What about Kohl Stewart?
Gonzales doesn’t sound too bad, he just doesn’t thrill me. If both Moran and Bryant are gone (I really like Bryan), I’m curious as to what they’d go after. And while I understand trying to “time” a wave of talent, I think you may pass over a guy who can be a far better player. I think you just have to be careful.

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/draft-prospect-watch-moran-finally-homers-then-does-it-again.html#comment-25177 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:22:59 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=47670#comment-25177 Wahl supposedly had an issue with the finger on his throwing hand and that hampered him last week. He had a nice start this week, so we will see if he can maintain the good stuff and say with confidence that the finger injury was the real issue.
I think there will be a good pitcher when they pick, might be someone with a higher upside than Gonzales but also a lower floor. He is an advanced pitcher, four pitches, decent velocity, lefty, one plus plus pitch. That isn’t bad for the 9/14 pick.
The questions coming into this season were the college bats. Bryant looks to be legit, but scouts/experts were saying there were no sure stars among college bats this year.
The best HS arm is Trey Ball and there is a chance he is a position player, which they think is a better spot for him. At this point, a HS arm looks like a slight reach at the 14th pick. Akin to taking the 20-25th best player with the pick

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By: NastyNate82 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/draft-prospect-watch-moran-finally-homers-then-does-it-again.html#comment-25176 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:10:07 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=47670#comment-25176 Do you think any of the other college pitchers available there might have a bit more upside? I know he’s been a bit up and down this year, but Wahl sounds a little bit better.
Also…is it me or does it sound like this is one of the weakest HS arms classes in years? Doesn’t sound like there are any really in contention for top 10 at this point.

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/draft-prospect-watch-moran-finally-homers-then-does-it-again.html#comment-25171 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:41:29 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=47670#comment-25171 From what I’ve heard, Marco Gonzales would make a quick jump to the majors. He may not have huge upside, but if he is a #3 starter, that is fine. He has an advanced feel for pitching, something you hear a lot with the International players, which means they don’t pitch like your normal 16 year olds. For a college pitcher, that means the same advancement compared to his peers.
He has a four pitch mix, with decent velocity and a plus plus change-up. If you could get him and Bryant or Moran, you have two players that look like they could be helping you at the majors within three years.

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By: John Dreker http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/draft-prospect-watch-moran-finally-homers-then-does-it-again.html#comment-25170 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:35:13 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=47670#comment-25170 This draft now looks like it could be top-heavy with college pitching, but not every team will take a college pitcher with a handful of good HS players and Bryant/Moran available too. I’d really like them to get a college arm and bat. The reason is, they would be on the same pace as guys like Polanco/Hanson/Heredia/Bell, adding a wave of talent all at once.
You draft HS players, especially catching which seems to be a deep spot, they are going to be 3-4 years behind that group. With Cole and Taillon, McCutchen/Walker/Alvarez, you want to get a great group together for a run of more than one year.
Pirates have said it often, they like the steady stream of talent approach, but I have to think at sometime, you need to turn that stream into a wave and you’d rather do that by the draft, as opposed to emptying the farm system for a run

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/draft-prospect-watch-moran-finally-homers-then-does-it-again.html#comment-25165 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:33:04 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=47670#comment-25165 The Pirates have to analyze this draft very closely, especially Pitchers. I looked at Windle and he seems to be a strong candidate, but he will already be 21 at the draft. The Pirates are loaded at AAA equivalent pitchers, with another 6 or 8 strong pitchers down at the LoA/Hi A Level, and many of them are younger than 21. If we think a guy like Windle can start at an advanced level it may be worth the draft pick, but IMO, having HS arms starting low and getting to Lo A/Hi A or better by age 21 could be the better route to take.

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