Comments on: Pirates Cut Six From Major League Camp Including Cole and Irwin http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 15 Nov 2014 15:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: supermarine http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25378 Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:53:12 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25378 okay, thought maybe you were with them at Phillies yesterday, thanks!

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25374 Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:08:16 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25374 I wasn’t at Pirate City yesterday.

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By: supermarine http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25373 Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:03:21 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25373 Any news on the AAA and AA games yesterday?

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By: Stephen Brooks http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25367 Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:52:44 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25367 Sorry, maybe I should have just said “hit hard.”

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25362 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:20:41 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25362 Taillon Battered?
In his first inning he only needed seven pitches, although one of those was a hard hit ball right to the left fielder. He needed 13 pitches in the second inning, including a strikeout looking on a very nice curveball against the leadoff batter. He was more up in the zone in the second, and had one pitch that was hit hard and one hopped the wall, but went foul.

Taillon ran into control problems in the third inning. With a runner on first, the right-hander issued two straight walks. He gave up a single through the hole past a diving Gift Ngoepe at short, which brought in two runs. The inning was rolled with Taillon at 22 pitches, ending his day.
He did not throw very many curves or changeups, mostly working on his fastball, read nothing into this start. Taillon like Cole and every other pitcher in the Pirates minor league system needs some work or they would not be there.
Giving up 2 runs is hardly battered!

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By: jg941 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25361 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:55:59 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25361 Tim – still not willing change Pie’s or Goedert’s colors to yellow on the ST Tracker? No chance?

(If you do go in to change it, can you accidentally change Inge to red :-)

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By: jalcorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25360 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:23:05 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25360 Yes, its not just “arbitration clock” it a whole year of control if you send him down for two weeks. I brought this up early, but he could even be the #5 SP and be sent down to gain a full year coming up in mid April. There really is no reason to give away a year to have him sit in the dugout in early April.

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By: joe g. http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25359 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:12:48 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25359 So you would have Cole start the season in Pittsburgh and be ok with the Pirates losing a year of control? I don’t think that’s a good move for any major league club whether they are small or large market.

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By: Stephen Brooks http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25358 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:51:58 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25358 That’s shortsighted. Presley and Snider both bat lefty, both play the same position, and for a 4th outfielder who might get 8-10 PA/week the net difference in impact between them in the early going will be negligible. You want that lefty OF bat in Indy just in case of injury.

The reality is they’ll both play a part on this year’s ML team. The Bucs will use between 30-35 players before the trading deadline. If you keep Snider, at least you have the flexibility to respond when the season plays out.

With respect to Cole and Taillon, both still need innings against upper-level competition, Taillon especially. He was battered by the Yankees yesterday.

Cole still gives up too many hits – even in AA his WHIP last year was 1.3. Give him 15 starts in AAA to consistently dominate, and learn how to pitch (the stuff already plays), and he’ll be making an impact when it counts.

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By: La Pirate http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/03/pirates-cut-six-from-major-league-camp-including-cole-and-irwin.html#comment-25356 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:58:15 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=48213#comment-25356 Aside from the arbitration clock the issue should be does Cole or someone else give us the best chance to win? We expect Cole or Jameson to struggle some,. I just as soon see cole struggle early this season rather than a midseason call up followed by struggles.. i also think Presley is the best 4th outfielder option regardless if he has a minor leage option. bottom line, the best 25 go north, period.

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