Comments on: Pirates Notebook: Gerrit Cole Dominates, But Don’t Expect Him To Make the Team

By: wkkortas

wkkortas — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:56:10 +0000

Cutch? The guy those cheap bastards gave a $51-plus million extension to? The same cheap bastards who were the biggest spenders in the draft until Selig changed the rules?

Can we just retire the “Pirates are too cheap” chestnut? It’s foolish, and it flies in the face of the facts.

By: Ron Loreski

Ron Loreski — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:34:31 +0000

Here’s what we’re gonna see out of Cole this year. A June call-up and and a September shut down, regardless of record. We probably wont see him pitch a full season until 2015.

By: Kevin_Young

Kevin_Young — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:27:04 +0000

What I never will understand is why it’s perceived as such a bad thing to worry about when you’re starting somebody’s clock…but oh well

By: meatygettingsaucy

meatygettingsaucy — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:41:25 +0000

I second both this and jaclorn’s comments. Good to see some knowledgeable fans out there.

By: jalcorn

jalcorn — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:17:54 +0000

It has nothing, repeat nothing to do with being “cheap”. You can have a player for 7 years or 6 years at the MLB level, which do you choose? The Bucs only have to send Cole down for 2 weeks to get an extra year of control, its idiocy to not at least do that. He could be the 5th SP and start at AAA.

When it comes to the June aspect it is about money allocation, not being cheap. You can wait until June and only pay the guy big money for 3 years instead of 4, that allows that money to spent elsewhere. Its budget management that every MLB team does.

With pitchers, there is little reason to do the whole June thing, you should probably just use them when they are healthy. Trying to worry about 5 years down the road salary levels with pitcher variability is overkill.

If I’m in charge he starts in AAA and you take a good look at Locke and KMac while Liriano heals and Cole pushes his way up. You can then make a move as soon as needed.

By: Ian Rothermund

Ian Rothermund — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:14:44 +0000

Yeah, I mean, god forbid they bother to see if he’s actually ready…or spend the first couple months training him on what to expect and be prepared for at the major league level. I mean, yeah, they have several other starting options, thus eliminating any actual need for him, which conveniently affords him more time in the minors. Reality is, the Pirates are only going to have him for 4 or 5 years considering that he’s a Boras guy, so regardless of ability, if I was GM, I know I’d be milking that clock time he has. If one rookie pitcher for half a season is the make or break for 2013…they probably weren’t going to have much luck anyways.

By: YYMIkeCC

YYMIkeCC — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:08:58 +0000

i like what Tony brings but I’d like to see some indepth comparison between him and Fort, who also seems like capable #2 catcher

By: YYMIkeCC

YYMIkeCC — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:05:23 +0000

no need to waste Cole’s playing time for a team barely fighting for .500
IF we’re contending, Yes , but bring the kid up when he’s ready and the games will finally mean something
also let’s ser Gaby play vs RHP b4 we crown him
repeat after me
small sample size
small sample size
small sample size

By: Dave McCracken

Dave McCracken — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:25:18 +0000

Cole will not make it from ST because of how cheap we are – plain and simple.

Gaby may just deserve full time 1B bumping Jones to RF. Sure the defense in RF is hurt but an outfield of Marte, Cutch and Jones could put up some league leading offensive numbers and Marte and Cutch play good enough defense to make up for Jones’ lack of range.

By: Possum

Possum — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 22:52:07 +0000

This game reminds me of the charity game the Buccos used to play each ST against the Manatee County Community College now known as State College of Florida Manatee-Sarasota. That was the team referred to by me and another Bucco fan as the “Hated Manatees”.

Just a work out for some of the guys that’s all. Nice to see Gabby doing so well but that should be expected in a game against this team.