Comments on: First Pitch: Gerrit Cole or Jameson Taillon? Who is Better? http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Mon, 08 Sep 2014 03:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26569 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:05:32 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26569 I couldn’t agree with you more leadoff. And that isn’t to discount Tim’s statements. Having seen them both pitch at the AA level more than once,I have my own opinion on which guy I think will be the better pitcher for the long run,but it is irrelevant really.I am not a professional scout. One other subject I would also agree with leadoff about is the number of walks for each. I don’t know about his time in AAA,but I saw Cole get severly squeezed on several occasions while in AA.

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By: Fred Langford http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26568 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:57:59 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26568 I have been normally in the minority believing Taillon is a better prospect. I haven’t seen them live to the degree you guys that own and work for this site have but the reasons I like Taillon better are his size and his potential to have substantially better command than Cole…whose command has worried me from the time he was at UCLA and we were considering drafting him. I just get Kris Benson thoughts when I think of Cole for some reason. Cole does have the potential for 3 plus or better pitches which Taillon hasn’t quite shown yet but I like Taillon’s curve better than Cole’s secondary pitches…and I like the fact that Taillon may not be done growing and adding velocity. Both are such great prospects though…like Tim said it is splitting hairs. The fact that Cole has been pushed as much as he has by a usually conservative fo shows what faith they have in him.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26567 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:02:42 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26567 Their talent is unmistakeable, what they will do with it remains to be seen.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26565 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:15:30 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26565 Well I already have a stance that’s shown on the top 20 prospects list. Cole is better, and Taillon is right behind him. And I did mention that in the article. Basically all of the reasons I mentioned are reasons why I’m not changing that stance early in the season.

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By: piratemike http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26564 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:57:43 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26564 The most consistent thing about Cole is his inconsistency from college through his pro career.
Maybe the experts have over-rated him from the start and led people to believe he has a higher ceiling than he can reach, it wouldn’t be the first time and won’t be the last.
Or hopefully the the experts were right all along and the Pirates will have two very good young pitchers at the top of the rotation.
We may have the answer by the end of this season.
Frankly I am leaning toward the former.

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By: frsthypocrit http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26563 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:44:49 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26563 I’m sorry, I guess I should have said it doesn’t tack itself to a point. It’s rumination, basically. That’s fine, I guess, but I think your readers look to you as an expert or at least quasi-expert so a stance that they can take or leave based on your analysis is helpful. Just my opinion.

I get that the analysis is there… not meant to be an a**hole-ish comment.

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By: burghdood http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26562 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:38:32 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26562 As a 1-2 punch, it could be like a poor man’s Drysdale & Koufax when they come up, with Cole being a little more like Drysdale-somewhat bigger, stronger & more intimidating…of course, SK was a once in a lifetime KO guy, but with out a long shelf life-if we were lucky enough to have gotten Strasburg (plus Cole), it would have been just like the Dodgers circa 66!

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26561 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:17:12 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26561 Really? Didn’t say anything? Next time I’ll talk about how Cole usually starts off slow at each level, putting his early season start in perspective. I’ll also talk about how Taillon had a great start last year, then struggled despite looking dominant early, which is why we should give him more time before jumping to any conclusions.

Only I talked about both of those in this article. This wasn’t a “let’s talk about their stuff”. If I did that I’d just be repeating every other article I’ve written about them. This was more about putting the early season numbers in perspective with what they’ve done in the past.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26560 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:13:13 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26560 That can be found in pretty much every other article about them on this site, as well as in the Prospect Guide.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/04/first-pitch-gerrit-cole-or-jameson-taillon-who-is-better.html#comment-26559 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:05:25 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=50947#comment-26559 leadoff: Just stop and think about the possibility of a 2014 starting Rotation that starts with Burnett, Rodriguez, Cole, Taillon, and anybody else (Locke,Liriano, Oliver, Sanchez). Wandy has a player option to get $14 mil in 2014 and if exercised, the ‘stro’s have to chip in around $6 mil of that amount. The real problem is that Burnett is finishing his $16.5 mil contract this year. I have to think he is thrilled with his pitching in Pittsburgh when many in baseball thought he was done. Having two guys like he and Wandy for guys like Cole and Taillon to watch would be fantastic. Is 2014 the year we raise that team salary to between $80 and $90 mil?

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