Comments on: First Pitch: Hanrahan a Recent Example of Why You Sell High on Relievers http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 13 Apr 2014 18:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: polevaultking http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26885 Wed, 01 May 2013 20:00:15 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26885 Don’t forget about Mike Gonzalez for Adam LaRoche, that trade was a win for the Pirates.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26879 Wed, 01 May 2013 16:15:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26879 Fatt Capps was pitiful and there were no tears shed when he left, regardless of the circumstance. He was due a hefty raise as I recall and was not worth what the Pirates were already paying him. He should get on his knees and thank God that the Pirates gave him the wake-up call he needed by cutting him. Armed with a better conditioning program and the desire to make the Pirates look bad, he did well in Minnesota. However, I think we have had O Do Tell, Hanrahan, and now Grilli since he left, so I can live without getting anything for him – just getting rid of his salary would have been enough for me. BTW, think the Cubs are proud of their $52 mil SP, Edwin Jackson? An $8 mil bonus and an $11 mil/year contract for 4 years and he is 0-4, 6.27 ERA. What do you think the Pirates should do with AJ for 2014. He came to the Pirates as a “broken” SP, but nobody bothered to tell AJ, and as a 36 year old he is still going strong. He is making $16 mil – would he consider less as a 37 year old?

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By: IC Bob http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26878 Wed, 01 May 2013 16:09:12 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26878 I don’t like to make judgements on one month of work. If we did that then we would not have Melencon because he had the worst month of April in Boston history. I still believe Hanrahan is a heck of a pitcher. I need to see more then a dozen innings from our guy to say this was a steal.

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By: Ron Zorn http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26877 Wed, 01 May 2013 16:06:01 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26877 This trade was a win from the beginning. Just too many naysayers chiming in to see through “Bob Nutting won’t pay anybody” fog. Melancon was a proven reliever who had one bad half a season, in the toughest division in baseball that also included the DH. I would have taken Hanrahan for Melancon straight up just for the fact that we had Hanrahan for one year and Melacon for four. Everyone else was a bonus! From a strictly dollars perspective, budgetarily, this gave us the ability to sign either Loriano, or with a bit extra money, Russell Martin. From that perspective, trade looks even better.

Once you remove the emotion, and add the additiona available dollars, which were in fact utilized, this is way beyond a good deal. And I loved Hanrahan!

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By: maguro http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26876 Wed, 01 May 2013 15:30:21 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26876 I would be willing to bet you a case of Iron City that Hanrahan does not get 40 saves this year.

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By: wkkortas http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26875 Wed, 01 May 2013 15:24:34 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26875 I don’t agree with the notion that there was no good time to trade Hanrahan. If anyone has shown that you can build a good bullpen on the cheap, it’s the Pirates. Look at their recent closers; Hanrahan was a throw-in in a trade with the Nats, and Grilli could have been picked up by anyone at all due to his contact with the Phils. If someone wants to wildly overpay for a closer, you make the deal, no ifs ands or buts.

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By: smurph http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26870 Wed, 01 May 2013 14:16:25 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26870 Seriously, bob? Sure it is still early, and I didn’t like the trade at first because I had not heard of these guys except Jerry Sands. There is a chance Stolmy could be a major league starter, Melancon has been excellent, and Hanrahan was going to be a FA after 2013. A win for NH.

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By: IC Bob http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26866 Wed, 01 May 2013 12:58:27 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26866 I am not ready to pronounce the Bucs the winner in that trade. Lets see how the season plays out. Hanny got hurt so he is out of the closers role. In 1 week he could be back in and by the end of the year he could have 40-50 saves. I am intrigued by how well Stolmy is pitching. I didn’t expect that so if that continues then I will say yes the Bucs did get the best of the deal.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26862 Wed, 01 May 2013 12:16:47 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26862 Couldn’t agree more….I used to play in APBA Baseball draft leagues in the 80s and 90s and was surprised then at how volatile relievers were. Very few were consistently good year after year.

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By: NorCal Buc http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/first-pitch-hanrahan-a-recent-example-of-why-you-sell-high-on-relievers.html#comment-26861 Wed, 01 May 2013 10:50:55 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=52017#comment-26861 There REALY was NO good time to trade Hanrahan, as you stated in the article. This team NEEDED to make the run with their closer. Lincoln was an extra piece in the pen, he was marketable.

THIS year is different, of course. Behind Melancon, we have a stable of potential set-up pitchers. Were someone to offer the Bucs another version of Jed Lowrie for Grilli, we’d have to giver a serious listen.

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