Comments on: Red Sox Knew Joel Hanrahan Was an Injury Risk http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/red-sox-knew-joel-hanrahan-was-an-injury-risk.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 22 Nov 2014 07:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: Andy Zibuck http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/red-sox-knew-joel-hanrahan-was-an-injury-risk.html#comment-27477 Thu, 16 May 2013 18:09:33 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=53582#comment-27477 Agreed, I’ll call BS on that Olney comment too. He’s injury risk = he’s a pitcher. Throw in his age and anyone could call him a risk whether they know of past issues or not. MRI any pitcher’s arm and you’re going to find something to make someone say, “that’s going to snap.”

“Return wasn’t that good” is code for “I don’t follow the Pirates so have no idea how the return is actually doing.”

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By: weltytowngang http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/red-sox-knew-joel-hanrahan-was-an-injury-risk.html#comment-27474 Thu, 16 May 2013 16:50:20 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=53582#comment-27474 Value time for a closer is in season, not in the off season. And NorCal Buc is right – you could see him having problems in mid-2011. The job of the fo is to foresee those type of things and be more timely with their transactions. What they got was really very good.

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By: Susanne Klich Langford http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/red-sox-knew-joel-hanrahan-was-an-injury-risk.html#comment-27473 Thu, 16 May 2013 16:48:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=53582#comment-27473 They knew he was a closer over 30 with some mileage on him and numbers that declined in the past year so they were aware. Every fantasy magazine i picked up knew so they knew. They rolled the dice and lost and now the Bucs have a closer after next year when Grilli is gone. As far as dealing Hanrahan at peak. We couldn’t because we were in a pennant race… albeit pretenders.

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By: NorCal Buc http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/red-sox-knew-joel-hanrahan-was-an-injury-risk.html#comment-27456 Thu, 16 May 2013 12:48:21 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=53582#comment-27456 joe g ~ Exactly. Hanny’s contract is up at the end of the year. We received Melancon, Pimental, and De Jesus for just ONE year of Hanrahan.

Also, it is UNREALISTIC to assume Hanrahan could have been traded in 2012, NOT with the team still in contention. Plus, the team had its initial collapse in 2011. TOO many major factors were in play for this F/O to move Hanrahan last year, solely form a strategic perspective.

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By: joe g. http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/red-sox-knew-joel-hanrahan-was-an-injury-risk.html#comment-27445 Thu, 16 May 2013 01:02:08 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=53582#comment-27445 I don’t believe that the Red Sox saw Hanrahan as an injury risk. “He’s an injury risk. Let’s annoint him as our closer.” Really? The value received for Hanrahan was not below expectations either, when you consider that he’s a one year rental.

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By: Brian Bernard http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/05/red-sox-knew-joel-hanrahan-was-an-injury-risk.html#comment-27444 Thu, 16 May 2013 00:37:33 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=53582#comment-27444 I agree completely Tim with moving any player when you feel you can maximize return. It’s certainly less risky with a reliever because they are replaceable which is my question.
Why do teams place such a high value on them? As high as 14 mil/yr some are pulling down. Just nuts really. A starter, at any position, pitching or in the field I can see but not relievers.

With this in mind though, and the recent news of attention being paid to strong armed prospects in the system and soon to be returning arms such as Karstens, McDonald, Morton. What value do you place on Melancon or Grilli if you were to move one of them by mid-season?

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