Comments on: First Pitch: Is Gerrit Cole the Most Important Player For the Pirates Going Forward? http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 18 May 2014 03:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: smurph http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html#comment-28928 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:43:10 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57002#comment-28928 Kind of agree with leadoff. You never know for sure, but Locke seems to have the grit and the brains to be a very good starter. Sometimes it is more than just “stuff” or a 98 MPH fastball. The standard reference is Greg Maddox who will be in the HOF.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html#comment-28923 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:25:34 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57002#comment-28923 Tim, my money says you have Locke figured out wrong, he actually could get better instead of regressing, he is a control pitcher and he has not matured yet and his control is not as good as it can get. Obviously he will tire some as the season goes on, he never pitched an entire season in the majors and there may be some regression in numbers, but that will be natural regression, in other words, he might get hit around one game and drive his numbers up in the wrong direction, but pitch a few other good games after that. IMO, what you are seeing is what he is capable of.
Soon after the trade was made to bring Locke to the Pirates I talked to someone about the trade and he said that Locke was the big prize for the Pirates in that trade, at the time most felt it was Morton.
If he were pitching for Atlanta or St.Louis now, they would be raving about the talent those two systems bring up and he would be looked at much differently.

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By: wkkortas http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html#comment-28922 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:20:14 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57002#comment-28922 That’s true to an extent–but the Pirates will never be able to pick up a true number one ace-of-the-staff guy on the open market; if they have that kind of guy, he’s going to have to come from the system.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html#comment-28921 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:15:21 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57002#comment-28921 Not necessarily true, the Pirates have one of the best starting staffs in baseball and only have one starter from their farm system and even he was not drafted by the Pirates. Scouting is the key, both for farm players and major league players.

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By: wkkortas http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html#comment-28920 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:30:15 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57002#comment-28920 I don’t know if it’s Cole as much as Cole, Taillon, Heredia et al; the Pirates have taken some criticism–though it’s tough to say how much of that is really justified, TISTAAPP and all that–for their track record with young pitching, and the Pirates will always, always, always have to live and die on draft and development, so it’s important that the current crop of young pitchers ends up bearing some fruit.

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By: joe g. http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html#comment-28919 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:27:07 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57002#comment-28919 Another great article with some great perspective on the importance of an ace versus great offensive players. Hopefully over time, Cole will become the next Drabek or better.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html#comment-28918 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:28:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57002#comment-28918 Tim…I agree with you that pitching wins games. Look at the Giants, and the Dodgers of the 60s.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-is-gerrit-cole-the-most-important-player-for-the-pirates-going-forward.html#comment-28917 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:16:10 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57002#comment-28917 Tim: What I will be watching is the attendance tonight. As far as what I expect from Cole – a well pitched game. Whether it is Gerrit Cole, Charlie Morton, Brandon Cumpton, or Jeanmar Gomez, we need someone who will help us keep the game under control until our hitters decide to give the pitching some runs to work with. How long has it been since the hitters went out and scored early and took control of the game? I think that Cole has learned a lot and will do well.

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