Comments on: First Pitch: Why is Gerrit Cole Throwing So Many Fastballs? http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: smurph http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29431 Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:39:09 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29431 So if the slider/curve is a slurve, is the slider/cutter a slutter?

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29348 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:24:09 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29348 I noticed in his first game Cole’s horizontal and vertical breaks on his fastball where almost identical to Morris fastball, the difference being Morris was throwing 94-95, Cole was throwing 96-99.
I think that throwing the fastball as much as Cole throws it is a good thing, quick outs are the best thing that can happen to a pitcher, if he gives up a couple of runs, so what everyone eventually does. I also appears that Cole keeps that velocity all the way up until he gets taken out.
IMO, he just needs to work on better location with his FB, work on getting any breaking ball over and work on his change a little more. Can you imagine if Cole could throw one of those Karstens 60mph slowballs after one of his 99mph fastballs.
IMO, I still wish he was in AAA, I think it would have been better for him.

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By: blackmax http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29339 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:46:54 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29339 Good stuff, once again. I suppose that the slider will enter the picture when needed. In addition, I think that if anybody can get him to mix pitches effectively, it will be Martin.

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By: Fred Langford http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29334 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:48:52 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29334 When I saw Cole in Columbus a few weeks ago he was fastball heavy that night too. I only saw 2-3 pitches an inning under 93mph. Not sure if this has been going on all year but this is good for him. His fastballs are dominant when he keeps them down in the zone…and he has had some issues with this in the past…Curt Schilling dominated throwing the fastball nonstop. Cole has 0 walks and homers rendered in the mlb so far…when you throw 93-98 all day with control down in the zone…it is gonna be tough for hitters.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29328 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:21:26 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29328 Cole throws a slurve in the mid-80s, which you could classify as a slider. He also throws a slider in the upper 80s/low 90s which acts more as a cutter.

For Cole, the mid-80s is a curve and the upper 80s/low 90s is a slider. However, you could classify the curve as a slider and the slider as a cutter.

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By: smurph http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29325 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:14:20 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29325 I did not see the game Sunday, but in Cole’s first game he threw a few sliders. His slider has a very late break to it, but not a huge amount of break. He mostly missed the strike zone with them in the early innings, so didn’t really use it much after that.

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By: smurph http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29324 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:11:50 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29324 “a well-located fastball is the hardest pitch to hit in the major leagues.” Well I guess it depends on who is throwing it. If it were Bert Blyleven throwing, I would say “a well-located curve is the hardest pitch to hit.” It depends on the pitcher. The FB is not only Cole’s best pitch, but also the one he has the most control of. I guess I am wondering if the two-seamer is considered a fastball in those stats you showed. IMO, the 2-seamer is not really a fastball, at least not in the sense that it is the fastest pitch a pitcher throws. Since Morton throws mostly 2-seamers, I assume that accounts for his 74% rate. So are 2-seamers included in the average velocities you showed, as most pitchers lose 3-4 mph on them?

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By: whiteAngus http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29323 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:08:37 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29323 fans need to realize that a fastball is not a pitcher’s “out” pitch, that a good fastball sets up the true “out” pitch. they also need to realize that pitchers don’t always have all their pitches working at any given time. when Wandy struggles its usually because his curve isn’t as good as it normally is. but make no mistake about this—- if Wandy was throwing 85% fastballs the numbers would be nothing close to Cole’s

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29317 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:06:27 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29317 His slider is his number two pitch, from what I’ve read. I am still waiting to see it. :)

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By: BuccosFanStuckinMD http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/first-pitch-why-is-gerrit-cole-throwing-so-many-fastballs.html#comment-29315 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:44:34 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57585#comment-29315 Another factor with Cole, at least in yesterday’s game, he clearly stated that his other pitches were not working – namely his curve.

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