Comments on: Pirates Allow Season-High 17 Hits, Collect Only Three in Morton’s Debut http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Mon, 08 Sep 2014 13:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: joe g. http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29224 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:28:07 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29224 Morton was solid last night, especially when you consider that he really should have had another rehab start or two in AAA. Most of the hits against him were weak. He didnt get pounded. He showed excellent velocity, a great curve ball and solid control of his sinker. He never imploded, but he’s still shaking off the rust. People forget that Morton reinvented himself, because being a power pitcher wasn’t working. He basically did it over the course of one season, which is amazing. 2012 was the opportunity to build on his new pitching style and solidify himself as a big league starter. The injury effected his performance and ended his season. Essentially this is season two of his reinvention, and I think that he will surprise some folks. Morton has an answer for LH batters – his curve ball. Year one was about developing consistency with his sinker. He thru almost nothing else that season. Last night he gave us a glimpse of the future: he’s going to start mixing in more curve balls and a few 4 seam fast balls. Everything plays off the two seamer. Throw that for strikes and he can keep the batter off balance with 96 MPH heat and the breaking pitch. I look forward to seeing his continued evolution.

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By: Monkshot http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29209 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:03:35 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29209 Morton didn’t hold runners on well last night but, I do agree McKenry doesn’t do his job well when he does have the opportunity. I would like to see Sanchez get a opportunity at some point this year and preferably it’s not because Martin is on the DL.

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By: BuccosFanStuckinMD http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29206 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:40:39 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29206 I thought he only had one walk in the game??

In 2011, when he was healthy, had made the changes to his delivery, and supposed to be the next “Roy Holliday” – he was mediocre at best. One good start, 2-3 bad ones to follow. IMHO, he does not have the competitive fire and mental toughness to overcome a walk, error, etc – seems like the wheels quickly fall off with him. Sorry, velocity is nice, but ultimately you have to get people out.

Now, I am not saying he was awful last night – he wasn;t. I am just not optimistic he will be any different than what we got in 2011.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29205 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:19:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29205 One aspect of watching a game on TV is listening to the commentators constant defense of McHenry, Blass and Walk to be exact. If the throws are not anywhere near the bag, you don’t get anyone out unless you are lucky. The traveling circus when McHenry catches is starting to get annoying. The old school thoughts that it is always on the pitcher is baloney. They are blaming the pitcher because they are counting steps, steps are not the only important part of stealing, POP time is important, Acuracy is important.
Instead of just telling me the guy had x amount of steps before he threw the pitch, show me pop times. And, the they ran on the curve does not work for me either, they run on any pitch with McHenry back of he plate.
If it is always the pitcher, then why don’t they run on Martin?

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29203 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:08:27 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29203 2 earned runs in 5 innings is not a bad day. 95-97 is very good velocity is important. As far as his horizontal and vertical breaks, I was not at the game, but I am sure the curve/slider was off the charts. Pitching with a broken arm usually makes a pitcher look bad, now that he has all of his tools, lets see what he can do. IMO, if the Pirates released him, he would be on the market about an hour.
In this game Morton had some bad luck, the defense was not very good and the umpiring was not very good either. All his walks were not walks, you can’t do much when the ump is calling strikes balls.

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By: James Santelli http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29195 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:50:16 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29195 I appreciate the comment, emjay, though I assure you I am well aware of Morton’s history and why he throws what he throws :) I am not the biggest Morton fan, which will become evident to people that listen to the podcast, but he looked pretty solid Thursday. He only gave up one liner/flyball hit last night, and I would say that’s quite good and I want to see at least a little more.

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By: BuccosFanStuckinMD http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29183 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:55:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29183 Is it me, or since the advent of radar guns, there is an obsession with velocity – almost to the point of exclusions of other aspects of pitching? Yes, it would be great to have 9-10 pitchers on your staff who can all throw hard, plus all have great control, command, deceptive moves, secondary pitches, and can change speeds effectively. However, those types of pitchers are the superstars – and are few and far between. Most pitchers have a subset of the above.

So, here we have Morton – who the Pirates have been staying with for 4-5 years now – despite injury problems and general ineffectiveness. Why, because he can throw 96-97. Same thing with Kip Wells, when he was with the team.

I hope I am proven wrong, but there is nothing to suggest that Morton will ever be more than what he has been up until now. Could he be another Vogelsong and figure it out later in his career? Yes, that could happen – and I hope that would happen with Morton. But, those are the exceptions. People talk of Morton like he was a former Cy Young winner who we are hoping to get back to form….what form – a 5.00era and a .300 batting average against him??

I just find this all very frustrating – and it comes at the cost of prospects who are held back and do not get their chance.

I hope I am wrong.

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By: Monkshot http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29173 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:43:42 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29173 Zagurski is eating innings in blow outs. Leave him up here until we can get our starting rotation healthy. I’m surprised Mazzaro is still pitching pretty effectively, I thought that guy was going to be released awhile ago. I definitely saw some good things in Morton last night but, all you can do is hold your breath and hope for the best when he’s on the mound.

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By: WardHolder http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29167 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:05:35 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29167 Probably Charlie gets another start or two in AAA if Bucs weren’t losing a starter thru injury about every 4th day. And absolutely right on Zagurski. Bring up Duke Welker, and dfa Zagurski asap.

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By: IC Bob http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-allow-season-high-17-hits-collect-only-three-in-mortons-debut.html#comment-29166 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:04:39 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57332#comment-29166 I like this guy but its time to go. We have got to release or at least send to the minors McHenry. Its not fair to the pitchers who have to throw to him. As a team If you want to be taken seriously you can’t allow him behind the plate. He is a terrible receiver of the ball and he couldn’t throw out my Mom and she is 85 years old. Bring up Sanchez, this will save Martin from the ware and tear of the season season and with the shortage of right handed hitters you could play Martin at 3rd or outfield on occasion when necessary.

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