Comments on: Pirates Aren’t Linked to Any of the Top International Prospects http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30325 Sat, 29 Jun 2013 00:02:49 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30325 Welcome to the world of International Baseball, especially in the countries where the kids for the most part are very poor and they are thrilled to get any type of help, even if there may be a little kickback or payoff along the line. Is it corrupt or just following the rules in place in Central America, Mexico, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.? And in that system, I want a guy like Gayo representing our interests. It is called “influence peddling” in the old world.

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By: Monkshot http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30323 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 23:13:10 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30323 Gayo is a scumbag, watch the movie “Ballplayer: Pelotero”. You will see first hand how horribly corrupt Rene Gayo and the international signing period can be.

I’m sure the Pirates wouldn’t have had a chance of signing Sano had Gayo not been involved, but he cost that kid millions in the end.

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By: BostonsCommon http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30322 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:38:39 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30322 My view on these 16-18 year old projectable Latin kids is starting to take the shape of my view on big, tall, projectable prep pitchers. You almost can’t have enough of them. For the most part they are inexpensive compared to top draft pics. And if you get 1 or 2 to the majors, out of a group of 10 that you signed over a 3 year period, it’s like hitting the lottery.

It’s really a good deal for the kids too, they get a little coin in their pockets to take care of their families, get formally educated by the pirates, and get to play baseball everyday at world class facilities.

I’m excited to see them compete with the big draft bonus guys like Allie and Bell. Do they get along despite the fierce competition? Do they play with a chip on their shoulders?

I can’t say it enough right now about how it’s such a good time to follow the pirates, really exciting stuff.

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By: Fred Langford http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30321 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:35:57 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30321 Thanks Tim. Yes, every player in the book says “Gayo/XXXX” …the guy would probably be a beast leading scouting in America but he is too important down there.

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By: Fred Langford http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30320 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:33:15 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30320 It blows me away that they left the Latin scouting director position vacant while the mlb was becoming what? 30% Latin or more? GENIOUS!

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30319 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:32:19 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30319 Gayo is involved with all of the signings. He oversees the Latin American scouting. Usually there’s another scout who is involved with the scouting of each individual player.

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By: Fred Langford http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30318 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:27:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30318 For what it’s worth, here is a list that Rene Gayo got direct credit in BA for guys that have appeared in the top 30 prospects for the Bucs and Indians:

Rafael Perez
Edward Mujica
Jose Constanza
Nelson Pereira
Ramon Aguero
Starling Marte
Felix Heredia
Diego Moreno
Ramon Cabrera
Hanson
Jose Osuna
Polanco
Willy Garcia
Dilson Hererra
Harold Ramierez
…I think he pretty much gets his nae on any guy they sign south of San Antonio.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30317 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:00:55 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30317 I think it’s also still early on those top bonuses. Eight of the top 11 international bonuses have come since 2010. Luis Heredia is just making the jump to West Virginia (after signing in 2010). Ramirez and Escobar are making the jump to Jamestown, after signing in 2011. The De La Cruz non-brothers are in the DSL this year.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30316 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:53:47 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30316 It may really be tough for other teams, but the Pirates have this thing lately for signing and developing low-priced talent from the International Draft:
1. Starling Marte, DR – $80,000 bonus
2. Gregory Polanco, DR – $75,000 bonus
3. Alen Hanson, DR – $150,000 bonus
Strangely, they have not had as much luck with guys that they signed for a lot more, but they have only been in the Intl Draft with purpose since the owner, Coonelly, and NH decided to invest in the infrastructure of the system such as state-of-the-Art facilitiesin the DR and at Pirate World Headquarters in Bradenton.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-arent-linked-to-any-of-the-top-international-prospects.html#comment-30315 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:53:27 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=58773#comment-30315 Not sure why they went five years without filling the position, although it helps to explain why they have lost for so long. When you’re totally ignoring a key avenue for talent, you’re limiting your chances of adding players who can potentially help in the majors.

Even after they filled the position, they didn’t do much to focus on Latin America. There was almost no money spent there, and the only big signing was Yoslan Herrera, who was more for publicity than for talent.

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