Comments on: Pirates Sign Neil Kozikowski to Over-Slot Deal http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: HamburgBucco http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29826 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 11:36:20 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29826 This is a weird one. The Pirates must think A LOT of this kid.
Then again, no other team seems to think so highly as he had to wait till the eighth round to get picked. So no other team picked him, but when we did the 155K slot amount apparently wasn’t enough to sign the guy.

Which makes me think: Did the Pirates offer this kind of amount out of sheer goodness or did Kozikowski tell them he wouldn’t sign otherwise ?
That’d be quite a big and confident statement from a guy drafted in the eight round, even though he had a committment for VCU.
Nearly 300K over slot for an eighth rounder ? Sounds utterly crazy.

If he turns out to be a stud and becomes a MLB starting pitcher the 300K will pale into insignificance obviously, but until then I hope we can still sign some of the other prospects. The way this signing has been done I’m sure all eyes now will be on Kozikowski’s every step and pitch in the organization.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29816 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:48:13 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29816 Gomez will replace Cumpton. That’s all I know for now.

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By: deacs http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29812 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:34:33 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29812 I know their pick is protected. I was more of the you can’t afford not to have a first rounder not in the system for 2 years (Appel, Meadows). I guess Neal could use that as a little leverage but in the end I’d imagine they’ll meet in the middle and probably over the slot without penalties. Alright. I’m going to try and stay up til the 5th inning. Wish me luck.

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By: deacs http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29811 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:28:44 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29811 Holy #&*%. I literally watched Jones ground out. Responded to Tim’s comment and when I checked the game Cole was out of the 1st. Thank God for DVR so I can find out what happened. If you get a chance Tim – when Gomez and Wandy come back do you think Cole definitely goes down to work on an offspeed out pitch? Slider, curve, slurve, change up? Whatever? I love his approach but when it’s 2nd, 3rd and one out he needs a strikeout and that was kind of lacking against the Dodgers.

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By: joe g. http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29810 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:25:29 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29810 The Pirates will Not lose a draft pick if they don’t sign him.

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By: deacs http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29809 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:22:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29809 Yeah. You’re probably right. The Pirates can’t risk not signing their 1st rounder two years in a row and Meadows can probably get a couple extra bucks out of the deal if he prolongs it. As long as he signs I guess I shouldn’t care.

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By: Tim Williams http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29804 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:43:26 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29804 This…

“Whether he signs now or 12 days into July really doesn’t matter”

Plus this…

“but with a lot of the first rounders signing for slot or slightly under I’m not sure what Meadows is waiting for.”

If I had to guess it’s that a lot of the guys signing now are signing under slot, and there’s no real downside to waiting. So maybe he’s just trying to get the best deal. No harm in that.

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By: deacs http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29803 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:40:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29803 Anyone have a guess as to why Meadows hasn’t signed yet? Whether he signs now or 12 days into July really doesn’t matter but with a lot of the first rounders signing for slot or slightly under I’m not sure what Meadows is waiting for. Maybe his agent said wait until July 12th, you have nothing to gain in signing before then. Even though I know he’ll sign it leaves a slightly bad taste in my mouth.

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By: michaelbro8 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29800 Sat, 22 Jun 2013 00:52:29 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29800 Well said Emjayin; and I’m glad the Bucs are looking beyond what the talking heads all say about a prospect/non prospect, because that’s where the better teams get an advantage in drafting.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/pirates-have-agreed-to-over-slot-deal-with-neil-kozikowski.html#comment-29460 Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:55:28 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=57649#comment-29460 Fred: Nice stuff about his young age and the fact he has four pitches with which to work and develop. Brandon Cumpton was our No. 9 draft pick in 2010 after a career at Georgia Tech, and he has similar stuff that he keeps down in the zone. Not every pitcher needs to be 96,97 to be successful, if the offspeed stuff is above average or plus. I wonder how many times Mike Leake threw over 91 last night?

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