Comments on: Third Mock Draft From Keith Law Has Pirates Picking McGuire http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 14 Sep 2014 18:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Kevin Anstrom http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28455 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 02:56:37 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28455 The draft is a tricky business. Below are summaries from the Baseball America draft previews. Who would you draft?
Player A
A 6-foot-4, 240-pounder who has an 88-93 mph fastball and a hard slider. He struck out 20 over nine innings in his final high school start, a playoff game his team lost in the 10th.
Player B
He works comfortably at 94-97 and can hit 100 mph while looking like he’s just playing catch. He firmed up his frame to a solid 6-foot-4 and 239 pounds. He has refined his slider into a wipeout pitch with depth and bite, and he can make hitters look silly with an improved changeup that bottoms out at the plate.
Player C
The 6-foot-3, 255-pounder is all about arm strength, as he has a 91-94 mph fastball and a hard slider. He’s more strong than athletic and needs to iron out his delivery in order to improve his secondary pitches and control.

Answer: it doesn’t matter they are all the same guy. Player A is Jonathan Gray in 2011, Player B is Gray in 2013, and Player C is Gray in 2010. Players change over time.
I would like to see the Pirates draft HS pitchers in the early rounds because of the methods the Pirates use to develop young pitchers. I’m in the (small) camp who would like to see Phil Bickford picked by the Pirates in the first round. In my opinion it’s easy to project him to throw 100+mph within a couple of years. He’s made rapid improvements over the past several months which isn’t surprising given his age. He’s much younger than many of the top HS prospects including Ball, Stewart, and Frazier. Age and development do make a big difference for HS prospects. It’s one of the reasons Colin Moran was a lightly recruited, last minute recruit at UNC.
I don’t expect the Pirates to select him and it won’t upset me.

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By: maguro http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28454 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 02:19:30 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28454 You do realize that the people who chose JVB and Bobby Bradley are no longer with the team, right? Maholm was a pretty good selection, BTW. Take a look at the rest of the guys selected in the first round that year and tell me who they should’ve taken.

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By: HamburgBucco http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28452 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 01:27:19 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28452 I don’t get guys like Kohl Stewart, make your mind up if you want to play college football or if you’d rather give it a shot at becoming a professional baseball player.
In the second case enter for the draft as a HS player, in the first case don’t enter the draft, period.
Or could it be a case of trying out to see how much the signing bonus might be ?

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By: meatygettingsaucy http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28451 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 01:08:03 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28451 I am not saying he is clueless but he seems to have a blind love for a player that, in all likelihood, is not and should not be drafted by the Pirates. It is one thing I don’t like around draft day is when fans get obsessed with one player and then if he isn’t picked, no one cares who was picked, they instantly dislike him because their guy wasn’t picked.

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By: dcpinpgh http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28449 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:21:54 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28449 Texas A&M just got the number 1 QB to commit
http://www.abc3340.com/story/22490947/top-rated-quarterback-recruit-picks-texas-am

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28447 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:07:55 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28447 Meaty…good points. Most GMs say getting one good starter per draft is pretty good.

It is obvious that HoosierDaddy ‘don’t got a clue’.

Foo

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28446 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:05:39 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28446 Matt…not a Kohl Stewart fan either. I hope we pass on him if he drops to us.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28445 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:04:27 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28445 Yep…if we ponied up another mil, ya think he would’ve gone back to school for all that comradery BS he spouts?

Nope.

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By: Lee Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28444 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:02:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28444 Kerry…agree…

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By: meatygettingsaucy http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/06/third-mock-draft-from-keith-law-has-pirates-picking-mcguire.html#comment-28443 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:01:23 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=55734#comment-28443 Are you related to Bickford somehow? Bickford is probably going in the 15-20 range, may be in the 20-30 range. I don’t understand your obsession with him. He’s big and projectable. He is extremely raw, has no breaking ball, he is a one pitch guy and sits back and throws heat to strike out competition and there are red flags concerning his delivery (pitching across his body, high effort delivery at times)

Second, if we aren’t going to listen to the scouting department, who do we listen to? And it isn’t just our scouting department saying the above things about Bickford, or all the things about McGuire. Just about every scout in the country is saying the same things. Mentioning players picked by a previous GM under different financial circumstances bear no significance on what is taking place in Pittsburgh now (although Maholm was a valuable starter on a otherwise pretty bad staff, Lincoln got injured, who knows what he could have been if healthy, and Black may be the Pirates future closer with his 98 MPH fastball). And if you are going to talk about failures, take a look at every other major league club. No team has ever had every single 1st rounder work out. Not one.

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